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Old 09-05-2024, 08:26 AM   #1
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By the way I'm voting for my wallet not the person. I have a family to take care of and the people currently in office have made that a much harder task.
We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

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https://tradingeconomics.com/country...inflation-rate

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.

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Old 09-05-2024, 03:42 PM   #2
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We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

https://tradingeconomics.com/country...inflation-rate

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.
Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.
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Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.
20-30% m0ore , do you think that is Biden or the Grocery stores and their suppliers doing that? There is your example. . How many millions more have Heath care that didn't before, perfect no, better hell yes.
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20-30% m0ore , do you think that is Biden or the Grocery stores and their suppliers doing that? There is your example. . How many millions more have Heath care that didn't before, perfect no, better hell yes.
Biden. Sorry there are still more then 25 million people without health care about the same number before Obama care, Now people have a $10,000 deductible which makes the coverage useless unless you have something major. Better hell no where do you get your facts. You still stated rates would drop as did Obama and they doubled.
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Biden. Sorry there are still more then 25 million people without health care about the same number before Obama care, Now people have a $10,000 deductible which makes the coverage useless unless you have something major. Better hell no where do you get your facts. You still stated rates would drop as did Obama and they doubled.

Seems you're the one with the wrong information............

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/...s%20of%20color.

Since its enactment on March 23, 2010, the Affordable Care Act has led to an historic advancement of health equity in the United States. This landmark law improved the health of all Americans, including women and families, kids, older adults, people with disabilities, LGBTQI+ and communities of color. Thanks to the ACA, millions more Americans have gained health coverage without limits, and protections are in place for people with preexisting conditions. People have access to essential health benefits, including preventive and rehabilitative care, prescription drugs, wellness visits and contraceptives, mental health and substance use treatment, among many others. The Biden-Harris Administration is committed to building on the success of the ACA and making health care a right for all Americans................

Hit the link for more............
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Seems you're the one with the wrong information............

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/...s%20of%20color.

Since its enactment on March 23, 2010, the Affordable Care Act has led to an historic advancement of health equity in the United States. This landmark law improved the health of all Americans, including women and families, kids, older adults, people with disabilities, LGBTQI+ and communities of color. Thanks to the ACA, millions more Americans have gained health coverage without limits, and protections are in place for people with preexisting conditions. People have access to essential health benefits, including preventive and rehabilitative care, prescription drugs, wellness visits and contraceptives, mental health and substance use treatment, among many others. The Biden-Harris Administration is committed to building on the success of the ACA and making health care a right for all Americans................

Hit the link for more............
Yes those poor people that now have health insurance can afford that $10,000 deductible they are still flocking to Hospitals for care. Having access and affording the deductible are two different things. There are still 25 million without coverage.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm
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Yes those poor people that now have health insurance can afford that $10,000 deductible they are still flocking to Hospitals for care. Having access and affording the deductible are two different things. There are still 25 million without coverage.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm
So you're saying that all 25 million have a 10,000 deductible?LOL


From your own link

. In 2023, 21.8 million adults ages 18–64 (10.9%) were uninsured. This was lower
than 2022, when 24.3 million adults ages 18–64 (12.2%) were uninsured.

Actually proves more people are signing up as the ACA gets improvments.
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Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.
It was widely reported that Trump paid no taxes in 10 out of 15 years as he claimed losses. He paid $750 in the year he was elected and again $750 the first year in office. See the link below. Not only didn't Trump deny this he actually bragged about it by stating "that made me smart" as well as (paraphrasing) "if you have a problem with it get the laws changed", which I agree with by the way. He was simply playing by the rules. But he most definitely paid less in taxes than you did in so many years. Is it really news to you that the ultra wealthy have ways to get out of paying their fair share of taxes?

Well many of us will work to change the laws by casting our votes in November.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...imes&smtyp=cur

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But he most definitely paid less in taxes than you did in so many years. Is it really news to you that the ultra wealthy have ways to get out of paying their fair share of taxes?

Well many of us will work to change the laws by casting our votes in November.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...imes&smtyp=cur
I honestly don't understand why Average Americans who work hard for their money get upset and scream when a Politician wants the top 1% to pay their share? Those top 1 % don't care about the average American quite contrary they want the average Americans to pay more to cover their share. How many on this Board personally know someone in the Top 1%(100,000,000 mill) and that increase would hurt them? People /Voters need perspective.
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It was widely reported that Trump paid no taxes in 10 out of 15 years as he claimed losses. He paid $750 in the year he was elected and again $750 the first year in office. See the link below. Not only didn't Trump deny this he actually bragged about it by stating "that made me smart" as well as (paraphrasing) "if you have a problem with it get the laws changed", which I agree with by the way. He was simply playing by the rules. But he most definitely paid less in taxes than you did in so many years. Is it really news to you that the ultra wealthy have ways to get out of paying their fair share of taxes?

Well many of us will work to change the laws by casting our votes in November.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...imes&smtyp=cur
The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.
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The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.
Tell that to Warren Buffet's secretary. I'm not talking about the people making a few hunded grand a year, I'm talking about the ultra wealthy. Trump did pay very little in taxes, and bragged about it. I'm not making this up, that is wrong.
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The wealthy not paying their fair in taxes is a myth.

Most of the government’s federal income tax revenue comes from the nation’s top income earners. In 2021, the top 5% of earners — people with incomes $252,840 and above — collectively paid over $1.4 trillion in income taxes, or about 66% of the national total. If you include the top 10% — everyone who made at least $169,800 — that figure rises to $1.7 trillion, or 76% of the total.
When a posters posts figures without a supporting link it's just a poster posting figures. While I'm sure the figures may be accurate you need to supply a link for context. But again I was not talking about the people earninng a few hundred grand, I'm speaking of people like Donald Trump or Elon Musk.

As for @nonnie's comment directed at me which claimed many if not most high earners were Democrats again I am talking about the untra wealthy. The truth is the 50 wealthiest families breakdown is 56% Republican and only 14% Democrat with the balance split between 2 spouces. Here is the list of the top 10 richest families and their party affiliation:

1. Walton – Republican

2. Koch – Republican

3. Mars – Republican

4. Cargill-MacMillan – Republican

5. Johnson (Fidelity) – Republican

6. Hearst – Republican

7. Cox – Democrat

8. Pritzker – Both

9. Johnson (S.C. Johnson) – Republican

10. Duncan – Republican

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We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

https://tradingeconomics.com/country...inflation-rate

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.
So it was OK to blame Trump for all the covid deaths when it was a world problem. You can't play it both ways.
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So it was OK to blame Trump for all the covid deaths when it was a world problem. You can't play it both ways.
Who is blaming trump for those??? I hate him and even I never did that. it was a pandemic -World Wide.

trump can't handle his own money, he can't run the Country Finance's.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-takes-n...111224080.html

Not to mention he has claim Bankruptcy 4 times.
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