Presidential Race 2024

[sdskinsfan2001]

Chase Oliver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Chase Oliver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.

It's trump or Harris and only one wants to keep this Country's Democracy going. The other wants a Dictatorship.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

It's trump or Harris and only one wants to keep this Country's Democracy going. The other wants a Dictatorship.

But you also want to end the Electoral College. You must be very conflicted. Because you can't want to save our Republic but also want to terminate one of the few things that actually saves it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

But you also want to end the Electoral College. You must be very conflicted. Because you can't want to save our Republic but also want to terminate one of the few things that actually saves it.

yes I do and here is an example why...........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/electora...083351234.html

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

yes I do and here is an example why...........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/electora...083351234.html

Electoral College will incinerate a half-million Kansas votes for Kamala. That’s a problem.

I agree everyone's vote should count, the electoral College takes that away

Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Trump won 56% of the popular vote in Kansas in 2020. So to "save" the above votes you would then need to "incinerate" the majority of Kansas votes. The Electoral College is the only thing that gives Kansas as a state any voice at all.

trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

trump has never won a popular vote election, ever. Kansa voters vote should count the same as mine no more no less.

I used to know the argument for the Electoral College which was so good it convinced a liberal friend of mine to change his mind and drop his opposition to it. But that was 7 years ago and frankly I have CRS (Can't remember shit). Since it won't be changed, ever, no point in actually arguing about it here or anywhere.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Chase Oliver: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Oliver

If you're not voting for Trump, then look for another option that isn't Kamala, because she is awful, and Walz is even worse.

I'm a one issue voter this cycle, stopping Trump. Harris is the only viable option to accomplish that issue. My vote was never "for" her.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by nonniey

I'm a one issue voter this cycle, stopping Trump. Harris is the only viable option to accomplish that issue. My vote was never "for" her.

If you could replace Trump with a the 1st repulican you would actually vote for, who would it be? I have a tough time getting a read on your overall views. This might make it a little easier. What repulican would you like to be president in January?

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If you could replace Trump with a the 1st repulican you would actually vote for, who would it be? I have a tough time getting a read on your overall views. This might make it a little easier. What repulican would you like to be president in January?

I liked Haley the best of those who ran but would have supported Desantis as well. I would not support Vance or any of the populists.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by nonniey

I liked Haley the best of those who ran but would have supported Desantis as well. I would not support Vance or any of the populists.

Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Thanks for responding. You're like the Dos Equis man or something. I don't see lot of similarities between Haley and DeSantis personally, so that's an interesting split. Doesn't mean they don't exist though.

Bonus question: How would you describe a populist?

Turnabout is fair play, I'll answer any 3 questions, if you want to ask, by Friday afternoon.

Populists use divisive them versus us tactics, resort to making promises to address acute or short term needs of a group of people (which is why populists are usually Dems in the US) that often are detrimental to the long term interests of those same people and the country as a whole. This MAGA version is isolationist, xenophobic nationalist, anti-immigration (problem is it includes legal immigration), is opposed to free trade and opposed to entitlement reform for entitlements benefiting to their group (In this case social security).