Washington Free Agents Signings

[Chico23231]

Gonna say it, kinda shocked not that we got Kinlaw, but the price we paid. Certainly didn’t hear him as DT who would be that sought out, at that price, 30 million in guarantees?

DJ Reed, a much better player at his position, got 32 million in guarantees….??? I much rather have paid him than a rotational piece

For 30 million guaranteed, you better come in here and play well immediately

[Meks]

DJ Reed got stolen!

[calia]

Originally Posted by Meks

DJ Reed got stolen!

He did. I groaned when I saw that.


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[WCommandersfan99]

Michael Gallup to visit:

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/ne...ton-commanders

I could see him contributing but count me in the group that wanted to keep Dyami Brown. He is a good deep threat which played well for JD.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Michael Gallup to visit:

https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/ne...ton-commanders

I could see him contributing but count me in the group that wanted to keep Dyami Brown. He is a good deep threat which played well for JD.

Dyami Brown was here for four years and had four touchdowns. He could have played another year and still not hit 1000 yards. He is a do nothing who had a couple nice postseason games where he still managed more fumbles than touchdowns. You will never hear his name again. Lol

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Dyami Brown was here for four years and had four touchdowns. He could have played another year and still not hit 1000 yards. He is a do nothing who had a couple nice postseason games where he still managed more fumbles than touchdowns. You will never hear his name again. Lol

I know he's not coming back. He didn't get enough opportunities through his career but still think the guy has talent. He was also instrumental in helping Commanders win 2 playoffs this year putting up nearly 100 yds in each. Glad you recognize that. Again, his strength is Jayden's strength (1 of many) which is the deep ball. Know he's not coming but rather he did. Honestly though Gallup would have already signed.

[htownskinfan]

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

From ESPN Plus (Scored a B-)

The Commanders are not messing around with quarterback Jayden Daniels' rookie contract window. Apparently not satisfied with Brandon Coleman as their left tackle, the Commanders swung for one of the league's most established tackles in Tunsil.

Tunsil is coming off a season with a 93% pass block win rate (10th best) and a 75% run block win rate (39th). He also led the entire NFL in penalties regardless of position with 19. When doing research for my 100-player MVP story, I got more positive feedback from folks in the league on Tunsil than those numbers would suggest, and I ranked him as the 72nd most valuable player in 2024. Tunsil is consistent, with a 92% or 93% pass block win rate in each of the last three seasons over 48 regular-season games.

The appeal for the Commanders is obvious, as Tunsil makes their offensive line better. By our numbers, Coleman was very solid for a third-round rookie, with above average pass and run block win rates. Tunsil should raise the floor, though.

Does he raise it enough? Maybe? But I'm not totally convinced because this is a significant package going back to Houston. According to our draft pick calculations, a mid-second-round pick and a mid-third-round pick are worth approximately the same as one mid-first-round pick when added together. This is worth a shade less than that because the 2025 third-round selection is late in the round but still, this is serious trade compensation.

Picks can seem abstract, but they represent surplus value that teams have to be careful not to squander. On the flip side, there's an argument teams flush with cap space like Washington must make trades like this in order to get their money invested in good players.

The other piece of good news for Washington is that Tunsil's contract is a value for the Commanders if they leave it alone. He is currently slated to cost them $21.35 million over each of the next two years. That's only a shade more per year than what Dan Moore Jr. just got from the Titans -- and Tunsil is better than Moore. If the Commanders sign Tunsil to a new deal, I would drop their grade, as the value of what they received would be reduced. Tunsil will turn 31 before the season starts, but tackles do tend to last much longer than other positions.

As for Houston, this is a tough pill to swallow because Tunsil was the strength of an otherwise weak offensive line. The interior of the offensive line struggled to protect C.J. Stroud and the running game lacked consistency. So, the timing of this is odd.

However, this is solid return for Tunsil. If one took the numbers I mentioned above, without the qualitative adjustment, getting a second- and third-round pick for him would be pretty good.


But those premium picks have significant surplus value. And I think it's possible that that surplus value exceeds the value of Tunsil's contract. The timing is rough considering the state of the offensive line and the fact that Houston is also in a rookie quarterback window. But I don't hate it.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

From ESPN Plus (Scored a B-)

The Commanders are not messing around with quarterback Jayden Daniels' rookie contract window. Apparently not satisfied with Brandon Coleman as their left tackle, the Commanders swung for one of the league's most established tackles in Tunsil.

Tunsil is coming off a season with a 93% pass block win rate (10th best) and a 75% run block win rate (39th). He also led the entire NFL in penalties regardless of position with 19. When doing research for my 100-player MVP story, I got more positive feedback from folks in the league on Tunsil than those numbers would suggest, and I ranked him as the 72nd most valuable player in 2024. Tunsil is consistent, with a 92% or 93% pass block win rate in each of the last three seasons over 48 regular-season games.

The appeal for the Commanders is obvious, as Tunsil makes their offensive line better. By our numbers, Coleman was very solid for a third-round rookie, with above average pass and run block win rates. Tunsil should raise the floor, though.

Does he raise it enough? Maybe? But I'm not totally convinced because this is a significant package going back to Houston. According to our draft pick calculations, a mid-second-round pick and a mid-third-round pick are worth approximately the same as one mid-first-round pick when added together. This is worth a shade less than that because the 2025 third-round selection is late in the round but still, this is serious trade compensation.

Picks can seem abstract, but they represent surplus value that teams have to be careful not to squander. On the flip side, there's an argument teams flush with cap space like Washington must make trades like this in order to get their money invested in good players.

The other piece of good news for Washington is that Tunsil's contract is a value for the Commanders if they leave it alone. He is currently slated to cost them $21.35 million over each of the next two years. That's only a shade more per year than what Dan Moore Jr. just got from the Titans -- and Tunsil is better than Moore. If the Commanders sign Tunsil to a new deal, I would drop their grade, as the value of what they received would be reduced. Tunsil will turn 31 before the season starts, but tackles do tend to last much longer than other positions.

As for Houston, this is a tough pill to swallow because Tunsil was the strength of an otherwise weak offensive line. The interior of the offensive line struggled to protect C.J. Stroud and the running game lacked consistency. So, the timing of this is odd.

However, this is solid return for Tunsil. If one took the numbers I mentioned above, without the qualitative adjustment, getting a second- and third-round pick for him would be pretty good.


But those premium picks have significant surplus value. And I think it's possible that that surplus value exceeds the value of Tunsil's contract. The timing is rough considering the state of the offensive line and the fact that Houston is also in a rookie quarterback window. But I don't hate it.

Yeah yeah yeah that all sounds good till we sign him to a big contract, and why would Houston be willing to let such a great player go on an offensive line that couldn’t protect the quarterback?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yeah yeah yeah that all sounds good till we sign him to a big contract, and why would Houston be willing to let such a great player go on an offensive line that couldn’t protect the quarterback?

dude i literally highlighted your point from the article; did you even read it

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by mredskins

dude i literally highlighted your point from the article; did you even read it

Lol yes but I thought you was trying to make a counterpoint with all the other good shit they said about them,my mistake

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

But these are things that can be corrected. Could be that he waw pressing a bit because of the situation w/ their o-line.

But wouldn't you agree that these are just mental errors that can be easily corrected? I have always hated giving up draft picks. But the Rams have proven that going the other way can work.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I absolutely hate the Tunsil deal.Living in Houston and being a Texans fan also I was so tired of seeing this guy kill drives with his false start penalties, couldnÂ’t wait for him to be gone, And then we trade for him!!? Wtf, Let me repeat, I absolutely freaking hate this deal, he is an absolute drive killer

Looks to me like he really improved on it. In weeks 1-4 last year he was penalized 12 times for 65 yards. Then wasn't penalized at all weeks 5, 6, 7.

Week 8 thru 18 he had 7 penalties for 30 yards.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/player/...xans?year=2024

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Looks to me like he really improved on it. In weeks 1-4 last year he was penalized 12 times for 65 yards. Then wasn't penalized at all weeks 5, 6, 7.

Week 8 thru 18 he had 7 penalties for 30 yards.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/player/...xans?year=2024

Nice info!
It seems 17 of 19 penalties were unforced mental errors, mostly inexcusable false starts. Only 2 holding penalties all year, wow!

Didnt we have a star player in 60s underperform when the coach discovered he needed a hearing aid and then he went on to a hall if fame career?

This looks eerily familiar

[mredskins]

at least we didn't pay chase young $51M