NFL offseason 2025

[That Guy]

Please make sure you're reading the post you're replying to. I didn't say that wasn't the average (I even said it is). I said measuring contracts solely on average value is silly, because that has no bearing on actual earnings by the player.

We offer Terry 0m, 0m, 0m, 200m = 50m average, cut him year 3, no cost to us, and he gets a 50m average deal. that's my point. We offer him 90m guaranteed, 0/0/0 base = he makes 90m day 1, and at year 3 he's 3.5m AHEAD of the guy with the 33m average contract (a 12.5mill differential from just taking the averages).

DK's last 2 years are at 29m and 36.5m that have no guaranteed money (and at that point he'll be 30), so that's a very obvious cut point unless he's destroying the league, because you could find someone cheaper. He could be cut a year earlier I guess, but 6m more deadcap, 3m less salary and still under 30. That was mainly to apples/apples since we're generally thinking Terry is wanting 3 years.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Please make sure you're reading the post you're replying to. I didn't say that wasn't the average (I even said it is).

I am reading what I am replying to every time. Yes, you did say average since you don't recall.

Your post below:

"that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average"

Not only are you arguing with a point I never made, but you are contradicting yourself now. I do not want to discuss this with you anymore. Please take it up with Adam Schefter and all these other national sites that are using the 33 million average as a consistent reference. The fact that you are literally acting like you know Pittsburgh will cut Metcalf years prior to his contract end is unbelievable. This is your argument which is invalid since you have no clue how long Pittsburgh will want him for. Metcalf is a dude and nearly 2 1/2 years younger than Terry.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

I am reading what I am replying to every time. Yes, you did say average since you don't recall.

Your post below:

"that link has his contract breakdown, it also says 33m average"

Not only are you arguing with a point I never made, but you are contradicting yourself now. I do not want to discuss this with you anymore. Please take it up with Adam Schefter and all these other national sites that are using the 33 million average as a consistent reference. The fact that you are literally acting like you know Pittsburgh will cut Metcalf years prior to his contract end is unbelievable. This is your argument which is invalid since you have no clue how long Pittsburgh will want him for. Metcalf is a dude and nearly 2 1/2 years younger than Terry.

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Dude, learn to read. You're responding to things I'm not actually saying and obviously (purposefully?) missing the point. I said I picked 3 years since that's what most people are talking about for a terry contract and that's when DK's contract has no more guaranteed money, which is often when players get dumped. I was also just pointing out that contract money is more nuanced than just the average. Please show me the contradiction? I have never said the average is not the average.

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

As I stated in last my last post, I'm not talking about this with you anymore. You are trying to contort what you said and your argument of assumptions as opposed to facts. I read as others read what you wrote. Very clear to see you argument is baseless and contradicting numbers being reported. Whatever makes you feel better though.

The contract numbers listed on sportstrac are assumptions and baseless? Once again, please tell me about these fake contradictions you keep bringing up. My numbers match the source I linked that you've also used, so... what the hell are you even talking about?

weak dude. do better.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by That Guy

The contract numbers listed on sportstrac are assumptions and baseless? Once again, please tell me about these fake contradictions you keep bringing up. My numbers match the source I linked that you've also used, so... what the hell are you even talking about?

weak dude. do better.

You just won't give up will you? Every other source is stating 33 million a year on average. Even in the Spotrac link, your numbers don't match at all. Metcalf has salaries every year of his contract including the final ones. Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean he won't get it or he'll be cut as you keep stating. You don't know. No knows honestly at this point depending on how well he does there. Your argument is speculative at this point. SMH. You do better and deal with facts. You have this weak, bs argument and for some bizarre reason feel like avoiding facts.

I agree with the notion to force Terry to play out his current deal. It doesn't sound like a deal will be reached soon.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

You just won't give up will you? Every other source is stating 33 million a year on average. Even in the Spotrac link, your numbers don't match at all. Metcalf has salaries every year of his contract including the final ones. Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean he won't get it or he'll be cut as you keep stating. You don't know. No knows honestly at this point depending on how well he does there. Your argument is speculative at this point. SMH. You do better and deal with facts. You have this weak, bs argument and for some bizarre reason feel like avoiding facts.



I agree with the notion to force Terry to play out his current deal. It doesn't sound like a deal will be reached soon.

Diana Rosini came out earlier this week or last week and said it most likely wasn't the average value that Terry was looking to match but moreso the guaranteed money .

Per Spotrac, DK's contract has 60 million in practical guarantees. The Commanders are likely offering around 50. Hence the 10million difference.

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