Post Draft: Who do you want at WR2 / X Receiver?

[Meks]

For me, we have enough bodies - capable guys that have shown talent. Its time to step up and take a role. Luke & Lane will only get better IMO - i've seen enough to be confident in that.

I've said it before but I am not as concerned with WR, until i see otherwise, as some are. I have faith in what the eye test has proven thus far with the toung guys that doesnt make me NEED to add someone else. But i will take Ayuik on a one year prove it deal if thats an option to see what hes got and how he and JD mesh back together.

Otherwise I think the new offensive scheme, and more under center PA will allow for more separation. Kliffs scheme didnt do the WR TOO many favors in that department if you ask me.

Im cautiously optimistic... But optimistic nonetheless.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Meks

I've said it before but I am not as concerned with WR, until i see otherwise.

I saw "otherwise" over 17 games last year.
We have Terry and a bunch of meh.
If it weren't for Deebo, who we don't have anymore and Terry goes down again we are in trouble. I don't see a high ceiling for Luke or anyone frankly other than our new draft pick.
Yes you can scheme better to make below average to average, but to win? You need a threat, which is why people would have even drafted Love. It is because of the dearth of firepower on offense.

Here's the deal, our GM is not a mastermind, he is pretty good but leaves major gaps that are obvious even to just fans like us. Last off-season we screamed for pass rushers, it was left undone, result? 12-5 to 5-12. He was a year too late. So he spend this year shoring that up at the expense of offense, which is obviously WR, and now oddly center which at one time was a top 3 lineman for us. He's been a year late before and hes gambling big time, and had an unforced error. I'm not saying I'm not happy with most moves, I am. I also buy into you can't fix everything in one off season too, but he's sitting on a huge wad of cash with a bad overall WR core and suspect CB depth with a questionable starter too. So unless he does a trade with someone like Newton, he is gambling that Sanrisil is miraculously better and is a shut down corner from a first year coordinator AND doesn't get hurt (not to mention his broken leg partner) and he is counting on either a late add Aiyuk or a mainly slot rookie to put up 750+ yards on the outside.

So I would argue, we HAVE seen otherwise with our WR depth chart, we know what it means to have bad or below average depth and no legit #2. We lived it last year and the results sucked

[Meks]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I saw "otherwise" over 17 games last year.
We have Terry and a bunch of meh.
If it weren't for Deebo, who we don't have anymore and Terry goes down again we are in trouble. I don't see a high ceiling for Luke or anyone frankly other than our new draft pick.
Yes you can scheme better to make below average to average, but to win? You need a threat, which is why people would have even drafted Love. It is because of the dearth of firepower on offense.

Here's the deal, our GM is not a mastermind, he is pretty good but leaves major gaps that are obvious even to just fans like us. Last off-season we screamed for pass rushers, it was left undone, result? 12-5 to 5-12. He was a year too late. So he spend this year shoring that up at the expense of offense, which is obviously WR, and now oddly center which at one time was a top 3 lineman for us. He's been a year late before and hes gambling big time, and had an unforced error. I'm not saying I'm not happy with most moves, I am. I also buy into you can't fix everything in one off season too, but he's sitting on a huge wad of cash with a bad overall WR core and suspect CB depth with a questionable starter too. So unless he does a trade with someone like Newton, he is gambling that Sanrisil is miraculously better and is a shut down corner from a first year coordinator AND doesn't get hurt (not to mention his broken leg partner) and he is counting on either a late add Aiyuk or a mainly slot rookie to put up 750+ yards on the outside.

So I would argue, we HAVE seen otherwise with our WR depth chart, we know what it means to have bad or below average depth and no legit #2. We lived it last year and the results sucked

I firmly believe in Lane & Luke taking step forward. That is the main basis of where my confidence comes from... But more slot as you mentioned - But would definitely add BA if the chance comes and give Lane a shot at stretching the field opposite of Terry.

Plenty of valid points - especially when youre talking about a #2 - Brown will end up there most likely, which eh, you'd hope he's still improving but... remains to be seen for sure.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Meks

I firmly believe in Lane & Luke taking step forward. That is the main basis of where my confidence comes from... But more slot as you mentioned - But would definitely add BA if the chance comes and give Lane a shot at stretching the field opposite of Terry.

Plenty of valid points - especially when youre talking about a #2 - Brown will end up there most likely, which eh, you'd hope he's still improving but... remains to be seen for sure.

I do not understand where your firm belief in Lane and Luke is coming from as it is certainly not from production or field time even in a heavily wounded year.
We are all fans and I get that, but hard evidence is lacking.
This sounds more like wishful thinking, hope or best case scenario to me.

Arguably, you can take any roster's 4 or 5 who returns kicks and have the same production here. The reason they are on the roster is the kicking game, not to be a primary receiving threat. I wish it weren't true but dang, Terry goes down an all you have is a single catch per game? That doesn't exactly screen productivity to me.
Ask yourself this question, would you rather have Deebo's production or these two?
They are on the roster because they are cheap, play teams and maybe could develop into some sort of backup receiver role. Unfortunately they didn't do the receiver part that well last year. We definitely have a Skins bias, but it is possible, but not likely, one could be cut because our rookie returns kicks too. That only happens if we sign 2 free agent receivers, which I would argue would be better for the team this year. If we could have them on the practice squad, we should, but that would be stolen.
If your WR are on the roster only to avoid being stolen on a practice squad, it tells you your WR room is crappy.
Saying all that, there is a world where Luke or Lane spent the off-season with a WR guru teaching them how to separate. That is the only way I see them click and moving up from w wr 4 and wr 5.
The rookie is likely already ahead of them in that category and in the NFL (ask Terry) route running is what separates starters from backups.

Ya gotta make life a little easier on your first year OC, and add the fact that Jayden has to learn life under center and you have enough learning curve challenges. I wish we had two Terrys. Diggs would be a game changer for me. Let our coach manage his personality. Gibbs did this all the time and won superbowls