Multiple sources: Washington is signing WR Stefon Diggs

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

He put up over 1,000 yards last year receiving and has nearly every year he has played. You seriously don't think Diggs produces minimally 500 yards receiving? People can slam his attitude and off the field issues all they want, but no one can deny he's talented, productive, and wants the ball.

I think you can get that same production out of one of the guys you already have. And by their own analytics dept, they think the production falls off at 30. Time and time you see it with really good and great wr's.

To me it's just another one year rental similar to Debo. But I get it, bringing someone with proven production is not a bad thing. I just don't think we see that same production from last year. Whether he stays on good behavior remains to be seen.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think you can get that same production out of one of the guys you already have.

Really? Then, other than McLaurin a given, then why have any of them never done it before? Our options are highly limited now that it is already August and our need is great. I cannot emphasize enough that JD5 is on a rookie contract still also. If the other dudes can contribute great, have them earn it and put up numbers just have to compete with Diggs now. Diggs has done it for a long time and intends on here also. Not like a 5 year deal only 1.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

Really? Then, other than McLaurin a given, then why have any of them never done it before? Our options are highly limited now that it is already August and our need is great. I cannot emphasize enough that JD5 is on a rookie contract still also. If the other dudes can contribute great, have them earn it and put up numbers just have to compete with Diggs now. Diggs has done it for a long time and intends on here also. Not like a 5 year deal only 1.

We went through this same thing last year with Debo. And I had the EXACT same argument. Debo had the kind of year I expected. He was solid but not worth giving up a draft pick. Probably could have got 700 yards out of someone already on the roster if they were given the opportunity.

Here we are a year later and I expect the same thing this year from Diggs. If he can stay healthy he'll get around 600 to 700 yards. I have no doubt that you can get that with one of the guys we have. Will Diggs be happy with getting a few balls a week?

I'm not against the signing btw. I'm just not really for it.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We went through this same thing last year with Debo. And I had the EXACT same argument. Debo had the kind of year I expected. He was solid but not worth giving up a draft pick. Probably could have got 700 yards out of someone already on the roster if they were given the opportunity.

Here we are a year later and I expect the same thing this year from Diggs. If he can stay healthy he'll get around 600 to 700 yards. I have no doubt that you can get that with one of the guys we have. Will Diggs be happy with getting a few balls a week?

I'm not against the signing btw. I'm just not really for it.

We did not give up a draft pick for Diggs like Samuel. Literally just signed him. Nothing lost. Diggs receiving production is significantly better than Deebo. 7 1,000 yard season including one last year is no joke. Deebo didn't have Terry nor JD5 which Diggs should making his potential contributions far greater than Deebo's besides the fact he's a better wr.

What would your plan be for wide receiver now in August instead of signing Diggs?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by WCommandersfan99

We did not give up a draft pick for Diggs like Samuel. Literally just signed him. Nothing lost. Diggs receiving production is significantly better than Deebo. 7 1,000 yard season including one last year is no joke. Deebo didn't have Terry nor JD5 which Diggs should making his potential contributions far greater than Deebo's besides the fact he's a better wr.

What would your plan be for wide receiver now in August instead of signing Diggs?

I probably would have stayed the course with what we had. I would have taken my chances with Dyami, Williams, Luke, Burks, kid from Va Tech.

But like I said, I don't hate it. Hope he can repeat last year. But two 30+ year old wr's means regression with at least one of them.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I probably would have stayed the course with what we had. I would have taken my chances with Dyami, Williams, Luke, Burks, kid from Va Tech.

But like I said, I don't hate it. Hope he can repeat last year. But two 30+ year old wr's means regression with at least one of them.

I got you it's just Dyami, Luke, and Burks haven't proven much so why bank on something that hasn't happened?

I don't think people are realizing how improved our passing game can be with a healthy McLaurin, A Williams, Chig, and now Diggs. All separators. If JD5 gets time to throw he's going to cook.

[sdskinsfan2001]

This guy is just a damn good football player. I think you absolutely take the chance on hin.

If Conerly can make a leap, which should be expected his 2nd year, this offense has a chance to be really good (with a healthy Jayden).

The secondary is my main concern. Outside of Amos, not really excited about that group. Definitely glad we added a bunch of pass rushers and 2 LBs that can also blitz.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We went through this same thing last year with Debo. And I had the EXACT same argument. Debo had the kind of year I expected. He was solid but not worth giving up a draft pick. Probably could have got 700 yards out of someone already on the roster if they were given the opportunity.

Here we are a year later and I expect the same thing this year from Diggs. If he can stay healthy he'll get around 600 to 700 yards. I have no doubt that you can get that with one of the guys we have. Will Diggs be happy with getting a few balls a week?

I'm not against the signing btw. I'm just not really for it.

isnt that the meaning of against ?

[skinsnut]

Please don't compare a traditional WR like Diggs to Deebo.

Deebo right now is a situational WR/RB/kickoff returner.
Almost everyone agrees he is non-typical, more of a gadget guy who is good with the ball in his hands.

Diggs can legitimately play X, Y, Z

1. Diggs legitimately can threaten coverage away from Terry
2. Diggs can replace Terry if injured

Even if they yards could be replaced by others, they CANNOT do the above two points.

If you think anyone on this team can effectively step in if Terry goes down, just look at last two years, from 12-5 to 5-12. Even Deebo couldn't do this, although he did the best he could. Lots of our "others" have a track record over the last 2 years, either averaging 1 catch a game, or not trusted to even hit the field.

So if you think we were "good" as is, you are smoking something good.

The NFL has decided Diggs is far better than Deebo 12M vs 7M.
Math says the league says Diggs is 71% more valuable than Deebo.
They are RADICALLY different players, almost like they play a completely different position.
Not apples and oranges.

We still need a deep theat to emerge, I would Lane to take that from Dyami Brown to save a roster spot. They both can fly and drop passes, so, yeah.

[skinsnut]

Please don't compare a traditional WR like Diggs to Deebo.

Deebo right now is a situational WR/RB/kickoff returner.
Almost everyone agrees he is non-typical, more of a gadget guy who is good with the ball in his hands.

Diggs can legitimately play X, Y, Z

1. Diggs legitimately can threaten coverage away from Terry
2. Diggs can replace Terry if injured

Even if they yards could be replaced by others, they CANNOT do the above two points.

If you think anyone on this team can effectively step in if Terry goes down, just look at last two years, from 12-5 to 5-12. Even Deebo couldn't do this, although he did the best he could. Lots of our "others" have a track record over the last 2 years, either averaging 1 catch a game, or not trusted to even hit the field.

So if you think we were "good" as is, you are smoking something good.

The NFL has decided Diggs is far better than Deebo 12M vs 7M.
Math says the league says Diggs is 71% more valuable than Deebo.
They are RADICALLY different players, almost like they play a completely different position.
Not apples and oranges.

We still need a deep theat to emerge, I would Lane to take that from Dyami Brown to save a roster spot. They both can fly and drop passes, so, yeah.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Please don't compare a traditional WR like Diggs to Deebo.

Deebo right now is a situational WR/RB/kickoff returner.
Almost everyone agrees he is non-typical, more of a gadget guy who is good with the ball in his hands.

Diggs can legitimately play X, Y, Z

1. Diggs legitimately can threaten coverage away from Terry
2. Diggs can replace Terry if injured

Even if they yards could be replaced by others, they CANNOT do the above two points.

If you think anyone on this team can effectively step in if Terry goes down, just look at last two years, from 12-5 to 5-12. Even Deebo couldn't do this, although he did the best he could. Lots of our "others" have a track record over the last 2 years, either averaging 1 catch a game, or not trusted to even hit the field.

So if you think we were "good" as is, you are smoking something good.

The NFL has decided Diggs is far better than Deebo 12M vs 7M.
Math says the league says Diggs is 71% more valuable than Deebo.
They are RADICALLY different players, almost like they play a completely different position.
Not apples and oranges.

We still need a deep theat to emerge, I would Lane to take that from Dyami Brown to save a roster spot. They both can fly and drop passes, so, yeah.

I didn't compare the two as players. I prefer Diggs as a pure wr. I just compared the analytics of wr's dropping off at 30. We saw Terry last year play 10 games, get hurt and have under 600 yards and 38 catches. Debo had around 700 yards.

Diggs was the exception to the rule and having a pretty damn good year.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I didn't compare the two as players. I prefer Diggs as a pure wr. I just compared the analytics of wr's dropping off at 30. We saw Terry last year play 10 games, get hurt and have under 600 yards and 38 catches. Debo had around 700 yards.

Diggs was the exception to the rule and having a pretty damn good year.

Fair point!

I still prefer signing a probowler coming off 1000 yards at 32 vs a bunch of potential 1 catch a game guys as your insurance plan to Terry

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

isnt that the meaning of against ?

I guess what I was trying to say is I'm just 50/50. We have tried these types of signings and had so so results.

But I'm glad he's here. He makes the room better. He makes the team better IF he can sustain his level of play of last year. Plus there is no draft pick compensation.