Obligatory post-game "Walt Harris scares me" thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

You can only say that in hindsight because he was owned two times in a row back to back. Fortunately one pass was a dropped TD, and the other was overthrown in the end zone. If either had been caught, this thread would've been a "cut Walt Harris" thread.

Of course I'm saying it in hindsight, how else can someone review a game...

Meanwhile you're talking in hypotheticals, what use is that? If this, if that, but the end result is all that matters, and in this case the end result was a win.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course I'm saying it in hindsight, how else can someone review a game....

Except, this thread isn't reviewing the game. We're reviewing the play, or lack thereof by one Walt Harris. Using the end result of the game to forgive woefully inadequate coverage skills during key moments before the game has ended isn't exactly balanced.

[skindogger47]

I believe Santana Moss has a MUCH better chance of taking a punt back than Mr. Brown.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Except, this thread isn't reviewing the game. We're reviewing the play, or lack thereof by one Walt Harris. Using the end result of the game to forgive woefully inadequate coverage skills during key moments before the game has ended isn't exactly balanced.

Just curious, what did Galloway's stats look like last week? I'm guessing he must have put up at least 150 considering how horrible Harris is.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, what did Galloway's stats look like last week? I'm guessing he must have put up at least 150 considering how horrible Harris is.

LOL, rest assured that Galloways ordinary stats had nothing to do with Harris' play. In fact, the one big 24 yd completion that Galloway caught was while Harris was covering him.

Defend Harris all you want Matty, and I'm as happy as you are with the end result of the game, but this thread is merely echoing the sentiment that many of us are scared to see this guy fill in for Springs. Sadly, there are few other options available at the moment. That doesn't change the fact that we're scared of him giving up the big play.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

LOL, rest assured that Galloways ordinary stats had nothing to do with Harris' play. In fact, the one big 24 yd completion that Galloway caught was while Harris was covering him.

Defend Harris all you want Matty, and I'm as happy as you are with the end result of the game, but this thread is merely echoing the sentiment that many of us are scared to see this guy fill in for Springs. Sadly, there are few other options available at the moment. That doesn't change the fact that we're scared of him giving up the big play.

Oh so this is all about a 24 yard completion? By the way Galloway exploded for 69 yards on 7 catches, but let's not give Harris any credit for that, after all he did give up a 24 yard catch.

Look, I wouldn't want Harris as my starter for 16 games either, but at this point what's the option? Jimoh?? Please.

My bigger concern in that game was when Taylor left. That's when the Bucs tried to go down the field and came really close a couple of times. Prior to Taylor leaving their deep game was non-existent.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

My bigger concern in that game was when Taylor left. That's when the Bucs tried to go down the field and came really close a couple of times. Prior to Taylor leaving their deep game was non-existent.

Exactly...now you're getting it (and not to be condescending, though I won't be surprised if you take it that way). Prior to Taylor leaving, Walt Harris wasn't tested. Galloway wasn't thrown to, hence his paltry stats. Once they started taking shots downfield after Taylor's ejection, Harris' inadequcies were showcased again.

But attributing Galloway's meager stats to the phenomenal job Harris did on him in coverage is pure BS. I was, am, and still remain SCARED OF HAVING HARRIS BACK IN ONE-ON-ONE COVERAGE against a #1 or #2 receiver (the point of this thread)

With Springs back, I'm less worried.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

Exactly...now you're getting it (and not to be condescending, though I won't be surprised if you take it that way). Prior to Taylor leaving, Walt Harris wasn't tested. Galloway wasn't thrown to, hence his paltry stats. Once they started taking shots downfield after Taylor's ejection, Harris' inadequcies were showcased again.

But attributing Galloway's meager stats to the phenomenal job Harris did on him in coverage is pure BS. I was, am, and still remain SCARED OF HAVING HARRIS BACK IN ONE-ON-ONE COVERAGE against a #1 or #2 receiver (the point of this thread)

With Springs back, I'm less worried.

Galloway had 4-35 in the first half and 3-34 in the 2nd half.

Doesn't look like Harris was tested very much in the 2nd half without Taylor to me.

I'm not saying Harris did a great job, but did he do a poor job? Far from it.

You're scared of what could have been, or what could be. Fair enough, but the numbers on the field don't justify your fears, that's all I'm saying.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course I'm saying it in hindsight, how else can someone review a game...

Meanwhile you're talking in hypotheticals, what use is that? If this, if that, but the end result is all that matters, and in this case the end result was a win.

That's great for LAST game - I'm talking about the next game. Harris is a liability and should be used only when ABSOLUTELY necessary. Using his lapses as examples is important, even if they don't result in scores. Think about it - why aren't defenses ranked solely by points given up? Because it's not just the points they give up that matter, but it's the OPPORTUNITIES they allow for other teams to score. Harris didn't get scored on this time, but, put in the same situation, he is going to give up big plays that will result in scores.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Harris didn't get scored on this time, but, put in the same situation, he is going to give up big plays that will result in scores.

Amen....which is exactly the point of titling the thread "Walt Harris scares me."