Brunell & Other Offseason Moves (Merged Thread)

[dgack]

Originally Posted by offiss

I kinda believe that our offensive woe's are due to his inability to take chances downfield, late in the game when there's nothing to lose he will take shots, kind of funny how things start opening up on offense when he has done that.

So if he runs the plays as he's told and takes a coverage sack, that's his fault? If the pocket folds and he's got nobody to throw to, and he dances and throws it away, you're blaming him?

And where is that third receiver he's supposed to check down to, that you're alluding to?

The reason "things start opening up on offense when he has done that" (taking chances downfield late in the game) is because the defense is typically playing a prevent, not because Brunell is magically deciding to "take chances"...

I'm not saying he is a great QB at this stage in his career. But I think you are naive if you think that making a change at QB is going to fix the "woes" of our offense. Which, I might add, didn't seem too woeful before we entered the playoffs. Coincidence?

How about fatigue.

[dgack]

The front office and finding quality players in late rounds is where the Skins made their living in the 80's and 90's, and I've said it before, it's absolutely where we've SUCKED IT during the Danny Snyder reign.

I don't know much about Vinny Cerrato, but we need to get some Bobby Beathard-style help up there to the front office to make sure we're finding those diamonds in the rough. Cooley's a start.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by dgack

So if he runs the plays as he's told and takes a coverage sack, that's his fault? If the pocket folds and he's got nobody to throw to, and he dances and throws it away, you're blaming him?

And where is that third receiver he's supposed to check down to, that you're alluding to?

The reason "things start opening up on offense when he has done that" (taking chances downfield late in the game) is because the defense is typically playing a prevent, not because Brunell is magically deciding to "take chances"...

I'm not saying he is a great QB at this stage in his career. But I think you are naive if you think that making a change at QB is going to fix the "woes" of our offense. Which, I might add, didn't seem too woeful before we entered the playoffs. Coincidence?

How about fatigue.

You should read everything before you write, I said it could possibly be Brunell playing it safe because that's how Gibbs want's it. So defense's are playing prevent when there only up 1 score? What defenses were the cowboys and the giant's in? Fatigue I am curious what does our offense have to be fatigued about? until the Tampa game [reg season] they did nothing, if anyone has the right to be tired it's our defense, and once again they overwhemingly outplayed our offense.

The reason our offense took off when we hit the cowboy's the second time is because Portis and some of the other players had a meeting with Gibbs and told him we have to stop trying to run the clock out in the second quarter, and so he started to push the offense, and guess what, we went on a tare. But as the games became more important Gibbs became more and more conservative, or Brunell was to scared to take shots downfield, take your pick, because it's one or the other, fatigue had nothing to do with our offense, their one of the most rested offensive unit's in the league.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Fatigue I am curious what does our offense have to be fatigued about? until the Tampa game [reg season] they did nothing, if anyone has the right to be tired it's our defense, and once again they overwhemingly outplayed our offense.

Right, because the offense has just been sitting on their asses at home for the past 8 weeks while the defense flew around the country winning games.

Fatigue means injuries, both serious and the little nagging things that add up over a season. Fatigue means you had the hardest schedule in the NFL and a 3rd week bye, so you've been getting clobberered for 13 weeks straight before the playoffs.

Fatigue means Randy Thomas. Ray Brown. Portis. Brunell. Thrash. Betts.

You think our offense is the most rested in the league? Because we had 2 bad playoff games? Did you think the Tampa game was a no-contact scrimmage?

You know what's sad is when fans decide to organize into "offense sucks" and "defense sucks" camps and try to kill each other. The entire team was tired and if you can't see that, well, you're blind.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by dgack

Right, because the offense has just been sitting on their asses at home for the past 8 weeks while the defense flew around the country winning games.

Fatigue means injuries, both serious and the little nagging things that add up over a season. Fatigue means you had the hardest schedule in the NFL and a 3rd week bye, so you've been getting clobberered for 13 weeks straight before the playoffs.

Fatigue means Randy Thomas. Ray Brown. Portis. Brunell. Thrash. Betts.

You think our offense is the most rested in the league? Because we had 2 bad playoff games? Did you think the Tampa game was a no-contact scrimmage?

You know what's sad is when fans decide to organize into "offense sucks" and "defense sucks" camps and try to kill each other. The entire team was tired and if you can't see that, well, you're blind.

Look if you want to feed yourself excuses on why we lost go right ahead, whatever gets you through the day, but our defense was tired from all the 3 and outs from our offense, and still played outstanding, now if your going to tell me running on and off the field will wear an offense out then I stand corrected, they must be the most over worked offense in the playoffs.

And just for the record, Fatigue in no wise coincides with injuries, how you conclude that a backup who hardly play's all season is now burnt because he's had to play 3 games in a row is rational I am not qualified to comprehend, but good luck with it!

I will agree with you I will not go into the offense sucks camps, and here's the proof, our offense is great, it's the reason we made the playoffs, lucky for our defense, if they had to win a game on their own we'd be sunk, again lets have a big round of applause for the best offensive display's seen in recent playoff history.

How Seattle survived losing the league MVP early in the first to injury, I mean fatigue, is beyond me?

[dgack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Look if you want to feed yourself excuses on why we lost go right ahead, whatever gets you through the day, but our defense was tired from all the 3 and outs from our offense, and still played outstanding, now if your going to tell me running on and off the field will wear an offense out then I stand corrected, they must be the most over worked offense in the playoffs.

And just for the record, Fatigue in no wise coincides with injuries, how you conclude that a backup who hardly play's all season is now burnt because he's had to play 3 games in a row is rational I am not qualified to comprehend, but good luck with it!

I will agree with you I will not go into the offense sucks camps, and here's the proof, our offense is great, it's the reason we made the playoffs, lucky for our defense, if they had to win a game on their own we'd be sunk, again lets have a big round of applause for the best offensive display's seen in recent playoff history.

How Seattle survived losing the league MVP early in the first to injury, I mean fatigue, is beyond me?

I can't even understand the points you're trying to make, much less debate them. You're one of these guys who wants to point fingers, and that's fine, it's a free country. To me that reeks of bandwagon jumper, but whatever gets you through the season.