Any update on Campbell?

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by PorterHouse

yeah but is he just a practice player like Rat Pansey or is he for real. also are we ready to sacrifice some games to see if this guys ready to play?

Who says Ramsey was a practice player he might have been ruined as u people say under Spurrier but this was gonna be his 2nd year under Gibbs..... Brunell had the benefit of the "Gibbs System" whatever meager chance Ramsey had to perform he played well so maybe your judging him too harshy also???? You see The total bad side or Ramsey and Brunell is God!!!! I know if i take this season and last brunell has played poorly in the majority of the games OVERALL.... I more than sure Patrick can do as well.... But Brunell DID lead the NFL in fumbles lost!!! good job mark..make your mark no pun intended or was there?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Who says Ramsey was a practice player he might have been ruined as u people say under Spurrier but this was gonna be his 2nd year under Gibbs..... Brunell had the benefit of the "Gibbs System" whatever meager chance Ramsey had to perform he played well so maybe your judging him too harshy also???? You see The total bad side or Ramsey and Brunell is God!!!! I know if i take this season and last brunell has played poorly in the majority of the games OVERALL.... I more than sure Patrick can do as well.... But Brunell DID lead the NFL in fumbles lost!!! good job mark..make your mark no pun intended or was there?

Ramsey didn't exactly light things up last year when he came in off the bench. He played better than Brunell did - that ain't sayin' much at all! This year, you can't tell me he played well when he played. He played like crap through preseason and through the Chicago game. He played well in the Giants game and he admitted that he improved because he had the benefit of watching Brunell play the entire year. If he is an improved quarterback, you can thank Brunell, Musgrave, and Joe Gibbs for that.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Ramsey didn't exactly light things up last year when he came in off the bench. He played better than Brunell did - that ain't sayin' much at all! This year, you can't tell me he played well when he played. He played like crap through preseason and through the Chicago game. He played well in the Giants game and he admitted that he improved because he had the benefit of watching Brunell play the entire year. If he is an improved quarterback, you can thank Brunell, Musgrave, and Joe Gibbs for that.

he didnt play like crap in the chicago game....... and maybe if he would have had the whole season to learn under fire maybe he could have been better but regardless brunell played like shit in alot of games this year..... and of course he can thank gibbs but ask jacksonville they cut brunell and it wasn't a salary cap cut either.....

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

he didnt play like crap in the chicago game....... and maybe if he would have had the whole season to learn under fire maybe he could have been better but regardless brunell played like shit in alot of games this year..... and of course he can thank gibbs but ask jacksonville they cut brunell and it wasn't a salary cap cut either.....

Unfortunately they didn't cut Brunell, we traded a 3rd rd pick for him. I thought it was foolish at the time, but after season season it was worth it. Hopefully we can find someone to give us a #3 for Ramsey. I get your basic point, however, I think you are perhaps a bit too attached to Ramsey though. Brunell played very well this season and I doubt Ramsey could have piloted this team to a similar record. His decision making is questionable and his play is inconsistent. Even in the Giants game he only made one throw and it really was not all that great...in fact is was borderline horrible. He was lucky Moss (and Will Allen) were on the other end of it. Ramsey's future is elsewhere, our future is Jason Campbell.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Unfortunately they didn't cut Brunell, we traded a 3rd rd pick for him. I thought it was foolish at the time, but after season season it was worth it. Hopefully we can find someone to give us a #3 for Ramsey. I get your basic point, however, I think you are perhaps a bit too attached to Ramsey though. Brunell played very well this season and I doubt Ramsey could have piloted this team to a similar record. His decision making is questionable and his play is inconsistent. Even in the Giants game he only made one throw and it really was not all that great...in fact is was borderline horrible. He was lucky Moss (and Will Allen) were on the other end of it. Ramsey's future is elsewhere, our future is Jason Campbell.

He was riding the pine in Jacksonville....

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

he didnt play like crap in the chicago game.......

And you can't say he played great in that game and think that any of us will actually take you seriously ever again!

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

and maybe if he would have had the whole season to learn under fire maybe he could have been better

And maybe if God had blessed pigs to have wings, they'd fly! That is all you Ramsey apologists will ever have is a bunch of maybes.

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

but regardless brunell played like shit in alot of games this year

And you're full of it, because his stats tell us a completely different story!

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

..... and of course he can thank gibbs but ask jacksonville they cut brunell and it wasn't a salary cap cut either.....

Of course I thank Gibbs for giving Brunell an opportunity to prove that he can lead us to the playoffs! Gibbs is th' man! What do I care what Jacksonville thinks about players they release?

[jdlea]

I will concede that they will not necessarily be a losing football team in that time, but what I'm trying to say is that even if they are, they need to stick by the kid. He has to learn by playing at some point and the only way to do that is to put him situations where he's not gonna get yanked for playing poorly.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

And you're full of it, because his stats tell us a completely different story!

in response to your response about brunell playing like crap in some games this year... 9/25 for 25 yards. That's a crappy game and there's no arguing that.