Will Saunders Affect Our QB Situation?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Even If he Loses and Fumbles 3 times in a game it's never Brunells fault....No receivers...Or maybe the offensive line....He's A 1st Ballot Hall of Famer

No one here is suggesting that Brunell is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but give him his due. He played a big part in the Redskins making the playoffs.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Even If he Loses and Fumbles 3 times in a game it's never Brunells fault....No receivers...Or maybe the offensive line....He's A 1st Ballot Hall of Famer

No one has ever made that statement or implied anything of the sort concerning Brunell. All we've ever said is that Brunell was the better choice and the proof is in the year we had. If Ramsey had played and gave us the same results, then Ramsey would have been the best choice. We're going by what we've seen as fact. With Mark Brunell playing quarterback this year, we made the playoffs.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

No one has ever made that statement or implied anything of the sort concerning Brunell. All we've ever said is that Brunell was the better choice and the proof is in the year we had. If Ramsey had played and gave us the same results, then Ramsey would have been the best choice. We're going by what we've seen as fact. With Mark Brunell playing quarterback this year, we made the playoffs.

There are some that believe that Ramsey wasn't given a fair shake, and when he did, it was under Spurrier's rudimentary offense. Furthermore, they say that Gibbs unfairly yanked him before he could fully prove himself.

[MTK]

I've never tried to hide the fact I wasn't pleased with Brunell last year... who didn't want to personally escort him outta DC last year??

But I'm talking about 2005.

Brunell proved me dead wrong and I've gladly admitted as much.

When Gibbs made the switch I wasn't a huge fan, but I said ok, if Gibbs thinks this gives us the best shot at winning, I'll get behind Brunell. I wasn't going to sit here and pretend like I knew who should be playing QB. 10 wins later and a playoff appearance it looks like good old Joe knew what he was doing after all.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

When Gibbs made the switch I wasn't a huge fan, but I said ok, if Gibbs thinks this gives us the best shot at winning, I'll get behind Brunell. I wasn't going to sit here and pretend like I knew who should be playing QB. 10 wins later and a playoff appearance it looks like good old Joe knew what he was doing after all.

It comes down to this:
Who would know more about the better QB for the job...
Gibbs or a guy who watchs the skins on TV?

Of course we have our own opinions and want to think we understand everything about our favorite team, but at some point, the armchair QB thing just starts sounding arrogant.

I though Brunnel was washed up last season. When Gibbs made the switch, I was skeptical, but I decided Gibbs must see something the rest of us don't. I think that 3 superbowl rings with 3 different QBs should earn a guy pretty much unlimited trust in picking the right one to run the offense.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've never tried to hide the fact I wasn't pleased with Brunell last year... who didn't want to personally escort him outta DC last year??

But I'm talking about 2005.

Brunell proved me dead wrong and I've gladly admitted as much.

When Gibbs made the switch I wasn't a huge fan, but I said ok, if Gibbs thinks this gives us the best shot at winning, I'll get behind Brunell. I wasn't going to sit here and pretend like I knew who should be playing QB. 10 wins later and a playoff appearance it looks like good old Joe knew what he was doing after all.

i think that brunell wore down and his play deteriorated badly after the giant game and the injury he sustained. he is too brittle to overcome that type of thing. next year it will be more of the same. he will be fine until he gets nicked and then his throws will start to sail and his accuracy will plummet.
something to think about for the coming year.

[shallyshal]

you never know how this might effect the ramsey situation. if he has total autonomy for the offense then the smartest thing he could do is sit down with all three qb's and say something to the effect of...

everybody starts off with a clean sheet. the guy who plays my offense the best, starts ! it is that simple.

if he does that then perhaps ramsey will feel he can get a fair deal and might want to stay

that is my take on it. i do not think saunders is coming here to be told who to start and who to play.

[shallyshal]

also, the way brunell rolls to his left so much, i think he does not see the whole field and maybe that is why he had so much trouble finding patten all year.
he gave us a good year and a playoff run. i have no complaints with the way the year went-- but i think we will be very vulnerable with brunell next year unless our offensive line plays like the oldtime hogs (9 sacks or so for the whole year). if brunell has zero pressure he can shine but if he is running for his life it is another thing

[LBrown43]

Patrick Ramsey is out of Washington by 06. With Brunnel as our present and Cambell as our future their is no space for Ramsey in D.C.. He will be a decent backup for a team like the Texans or Panthers.

[dmek25]

offiss,if ramsey goes and tears the league up with another team,are you going to say "i told you so?"

[offiss]

Originally Posted by dmek25

offiss,if ramsey goes and tears the league up with another team,are you going to say "i told you so?"

I will start my own thread so you can all apologize!

[SmootSmack]

If he doesn't, will you apologize?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

If he doesn't, will you apologize?

Like your not already saving these post's? I expect you to do likewise if and when I am proven correct.

[mheisig]

I'm reall kind of baffled that we're even arguing about Ramsey anymore. I'm fine with arguing about Brunell or Campbell or the secret option #3 QB, but Ramsey? He's gone, simple as that. Why are we even discussing this still?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by offiss

Like your not already saving these post's? I expect you to do likewise if and when I am proven correct.

My personal feeling is that Ramsey is probably just about as good as he's going to get. He can have a long solid career. Sometimes I think he's like Kitna with a better arm. But I don't see him reaching elite status. But that's just me. We'll just have to wait and see.