Randle El is the receiver we need to pursue (#2 WR discussion - Merged)

[RMSkins]

Thanks for the welcome. It's nice to see that their are some people pushing for Randle El. As for Saunders keeping short explosive receivers as opposed to the TO Prototype receivers I just look back to the receivers he had in KC (Hall, Kennison, Parker) they're all pretty small receiver so I think Saunders will keep the smaller guys. As for Koren Robinson I would like to see him but I rather have Randle El, Moulds is a great Receiver but he is getting up there in age, and that makes me wonder how much he has left in the tank. I think Randle El is the most legitmate #2 Receiver for us given his age and how it seems that the Redskins are building this team around some younger guys.

[#56fanatic]

I just dont see it as a priority to go and spend money on a big name guy. We have other needs that need to be addressed and spending big money on one guy just doesn't seem to fit. We need depth at o-line and d-line. We need secondary depth, corner and safety. Maybe some depth at TE, although I believe Cooley will play alot more w/ suanders calling the plays. We are going to have to sign a QB also because Ramsey is not going to be here. I would much rather sign quality players at those positions, than sign one big name guy and a bunch of stop gaps or roster fillers. I think the Redskins are spending the money where they need to, offensive coaching. Patten has been, typically through his career, a productive #2 guy. I believe with saunders opening things up and another year under his belt, Patten will be productive. You can give up on a guy because of 1 bad year(Brunell?) Also we have draft picks, plus what ever we get for Ramsey that could be used on a WR that could be productive as a #3 or if we are lucky #2. Plus I believe Cooley will be alot more involved, much like Gonzales was in KC, he would have about 100 catches each year. It sounds nice to say Reggie Wayne, Randel el, Robinson is a Redskin, but I just think the quality of players signed through out the Roster is more important than the superstar lable of one player.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just dont see it as a priority to go and spend money on a big name guy. We have other needs that need to be addressed and spending big money on one guy just doesn't seem to fit. We need depth at o-line and d-line. We need secondary depth, corner and safety. Maybe some depth at TE, although I believe Cooley will play alot more w/ suanders calling the plays. We are going to have to sign a QB also because Ramsey is not going to be here. I would much rather sign quality players at those positions, than sign one big name guy and a bunch of stop gaps or roster fillers. I think the Redskins are spending the money where they need to, offensive coaching. Patten has been, typically through his career, a productive #2 guy. I believe with saunders opening things up and another year under his belt, Patten will be productive. You can give up on a guy because of 1 bad year(Brunell?) Also we have draft picks, plus what ever we get for Ramsey that could be used on a WR that could be productive as a #3 or if we are lucky #2. Plus I believe Cooley will be alot more involved, much like Gonzales was in KC, he would have about 100 catches each year. It sounds nice to say Reggie Wayne, Randel el, Robinson is a Redskin, but I just think the quality of players signed through out the Roster is more important than the superstar lable of one player.

and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by That Guy

and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).

I didn't say get scrubs, I said quality backups or #3 or #4s. I cant see Robinson signing for anything less. I was a career year for him, so he's looking to get paid. Curtis, not sure. Injuries are part of the game, hopefully they dont happen, but you cant stack your roster with a bunch of high priced players at one position. Other parts of the roster will pay the price. I'd say we are in the same position if Portis got hurt, Betts may look OK for a game or two, but he hasn't been healthy a whole season yet, and is unproven as a #1 RB. Same thing with the O-line, D-line. You saw what happened when Thomas went down last year. That really hurt us in seattle, we couldn't run worth crap. I am just saying to sign guys that dont drain the wallet. If they have workable demands for contracts, why not, but if they are asking for alot of cash, I dont see us signing them.

[MTK]

Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.

I must be thinking of someone else. that is hardly a great year!!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I must be thinking of someone else. that is hardly a great year!!

hence my confusion at your insistance of high money... he's still super cheap. He DID have a great year returning kicks (PB returner), but KR/PR get paid around vet min. That's why he's a good guy to get, if he's right now, he's got the skills of a #2 or low tier #1 and can return and wants to be here and wont cost too much. You just have to hope he can stay straight.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Koren Robinson had 22 catches for 347 yards and 1 TD. Hardly a career year, I think he's still damaged goods to the point where he's not going to be able to name his own price and command #1 WR type money.

you are correct. teams will not be lining up to pay robinson first tier money.
if he expects that he will sit for a long time. there will have to be safeguards for any team signing him because of the possibility of relapse.. still he has a fine upside and is young. he needs to go to the right team for certain. given how tight the skins are becoming he will need to pass muster from the vets. if he does, look for the skins to make a strong push for him

[j_j__l]

Originally Posted by shallyshal

you are correct. teams will not be lining up to pay robinson first tier money.
if he expects that he will sit for a long time. there will have to be safeguards for any team signing him because of the possibility of relapse.. still he has a fine upside and is young. he needs to go to the right team for certain. given how tight the skins are becoming he will need to pass muster from the vets. if he does, look for the skins to make a strong push for him

I agree with you guys on Robinson being a GOOD pick up, I think it would take a VERY GOOD interview with GIbbs to make sure he passes the REDSKINS character test...I think this team will have alot of FA options at WR. I still think we should take a HARD look at J. Jerovicouis....I think his style would fit in well with Patten and Moss and he's proven (this year) he can step into the top 2 spots if either get hurt.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by That Guy

and what happens when patten or moss get hurt? we pack it in and wait for next year?

guys like curtis or robinson won't be big money like wayne or moulds or even r-el (who's overhyped).

i like curtis but he is smallish and also a restricted free agent. he will cost a pick. robinson won't. moulds won't either if he is released. we could get a got solid year out of mccardell as well. there are gonna be good options out there.

[giacomo2]

i think moulds would be a perfect fit...he has size and speed, with him we have santana, moulds and patton...what a tough match-up for any secondary. i like randel-el....but i think he will stay in pittsburgh.