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Old 01-23-2006, 04:39 PM   #1
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The whole "West Coast" offense thing is thoroughly confusing, even for football fans who pay attention. I, myself didn't fully understand exactly which offense it was -- Bill Walsh's in San Fransisco? Or Don Coryell's in San Diego? Anyway, it was an old article by Dr. Z in SI that TAFKAS linked to that finally explained it.

Everyone thinks of it today as short passing, slants, halfback and fullback lined up close together in the backfield, blah, blah, blah ... we all associate it with what Joe Montana and Steve Young ran with the 49ers, and the long line of coaches who studied under Walsh that followed it -- Mike Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, and Andy Reid.

In fact, the real "West Coast" offense was originally the very same offensive scheme that Joe Gibbs, Norv Turner, Ernie Zampese, Mike Martz all run today who followed Don Coryell while he coached the Chargers before Bill Walsh ever coached at San Fran. According to the article, when Bill Walsh first heard the term, "West Coast", he didn't care for it, because he picked it up under Paul Brown in Cincinnati.

So CooleyFan, yet again, is actually correct in referring Norv Turner's attack as "West Coast" offense, at least in its original and literal sense.
Semantics.
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Semantics.
Right. So why all the fuss over CooleyFan calling Norval's scheme West Coast?
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Right. So why all the fuss over CooleyFan calling Norval's scheme West Coast?

In the widely accepted interpretation of what is considered a "West Coast" offense, Norv Turner's offense doesn't exactly fit the bill. His might be a relation to it. It's kind of like the biblical argument of all of us being related to Adam and Eve. All offenses are based off of another offense - except in the case of Steve Spurrier where he made it up as he went along!
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Re: Gibbs needs help

I don't want Norv back either, but believe it or not, I read somewhere that right before the Raider game, Joe Gibbs commented that he'd been impressed with Turner back when he was with the Rams and probably should have hired him earlier on.
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I don't want Norv back either, but believe it or not, I read somewhere that right before the Raider game, Joe Gibbs commented that he'd been impressed with Turner back when he was with the Rams and probably should have hired him earlier on.

I believe I remember watching an interview where Gibbs made the same comment, but he was laughing about it.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:51 AM   #6
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In the widely accepted interpretation of what is considered a "West Coast" offense, Norv Turner's offense doesn't exactly fit the bill. His might be a relation to it. It's kind of like the biblical argument of all of us being related to Adam and Eve. All offenses are based off of another offense - except in the case of Steve Spurrier where he made it up as he went along!

See this terd backpeddling? You got told by someone other than me, now give it up. You were WRONG.
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