Big Bens TD

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by skindogger47

As soon as I heard that the head official was a former cop I was like, well, we know he's an idiot, and he'll probably make his mind up early and jump to conclusions. I don't care, though, nothing but the holding call was the actual wrong call.

As for Roethlisberger not getting across, well that might have mattered on 4th down. But they were going to go for it and get that touchdown on the next play regardless.

Mike Holmgren just turned in possibly the worst coaching performance in Super Bowl history, which also didn't help the Seahawks' chances.

i think they would have kicked the field goel on 4th down, it was the 1st quarter and the score would have been tied at 3. no need to go for it in that situation.


holmgren actually out coached cower in that game. the refs and jeremy stevens made seattle look bad. holmgren made mistake in the last 2 minutes of the first half, thats it. the steelers big plays came from their OC, cower doesn't call any plays.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

holmgren actually out coached cower in that game. the refs and jeremy stevens made seattle look bad. holmgren made mistake in the last 2 minutes of the first half, thats it. the steelers big plays came from their OC, cower doesn't call any plays.

outcoached? last 2min of each half... they sucked hard. Stevens shouldn't be on the team much less running pass patterns when he can't catch a cold. catching 30% of balls that hit you directly in the chest is NOT acceptable (and he can't block either).

[70Chip]

Lost in all the talk about the officials, Holmgren's clock management, and Stephens dropped passes is the fact that Roethlisberger played horribly. The worst passer rating of any winning quarterback in a SB. If we just would have made it to the big game, Brunell would have had the chance to outshine the opposing QB. And can someone explain why we're all supposed to be so touchy-feely for Bettis? I must have missed the memo on that one. I like Bettis just fine but why is he getting the Oprah treatment?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Lost in all the talk about the officials, Holmgren's clock management, and Stephens dropped passes is the fact that Roethlisberger played horribly. The worst passer rating of any winning quarterback in a SB. If we just would have made it to the big game, Brunell would have had the chance to outshine the opposing QB. And can someone explain why we're all supposed to be so touchy-feely for Bettis? I must have missed the memo on that one. I like Bettis just fine but why is he getting the Oprah treatment?

cause he's a retiring HOFer playing his final game in the SB in his home town.

I just haven't watched espn the last 2 weeks to avoid hearing the same stories 400 times though. Its old after the first day.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

outcoached? last 2min of each half... they sucked hard. Stevens shouldn't be on the team much less running pass patterns when he can't catch a cold. catching 30% of balls that hit you directly in the chest is NOT acceptable (and he can't block either).

the last two minutes of the first half was fine until homgren called that running play. all that confusion afterward was hasselbacks fualt, he kept trying to audibe.

the last two minutes of the last half was coached fine by holmgren. what should he have done differently there ?

by my estimations holmgren coached well for about 59 minutes out of 60.

one thing you could say is that maybe holmgre should have went for it instead of punting on 4th down with only 6 minutes to play. that would make it 58 out of 60.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the last two minutes of the first half was fine until homgren called that running play. all that confusion afterward was hasselbacks fualt, he kept trying to audibe.

the last two minutes of the last half was coached fine by holmgren. what should he have done differently there ?

by my estimations holmgren coached well for about 59 minutes out of 60.

one thing you could say is that maybe holmgre should have went for it instead of punting on 4th down with only 6 minutes to play. that would make it 58 out of 60.

so holmgren is perfect and absolutely nothing is his fault even though its his team and he's in charge and making sure players know what to do. He told matt to audible this year and it usually works out.

If you refuse to even listen to any arguements than debating anything is pointless caues you've obviously convinced yourself this is all everyone else's fault but the coach who couldn't get his team to play like it cared when they had their chances.