Ravens shopping Ray Lewis?

[70Chip]

I don't think Ramsey would represent an especially bad bust. Feature these Redskins firts rounders:

Heath Schuler 1994 QB Tenessee
Andre Johnson 1996 T Penn State

I'm giving passes to Desmond Howard and Bobby Wilson based on their SB rings. They, like Ramsey, were mere disappointments.

I'm also betting that 12th overall pick:

Yazoo Smith 1968 DB Oregon or 4th overall pick
Richie Lucas 1960 QB Penn State

didn't exactly set the world on fire, but that was before I was born. Maybe some veteran fans will remember them.

[sportscurmudgeon]

70 Chip:

I tried to limit the damage by saying one of the worst picks in the last 25 tears. Gary Beban was another Skins first rund pick who stunk and dont even talk bout Ray Macdonald (was that his name?) the 250 lb fullback from Montana or Idaho back in the mid-60s. He was as useless as a chocolate teapot.

If we have seen the best of Partick Ramsey, then he was as useless as Heath Shuler. Neither of them was worth a bucket of warm spit. Now if Ramsey has more to show...

[70Chip]

Ray Mcdonald 1967 Idaho FB (13 overall)

I'm afraid that even if Ramsey has better days they will be somewhere else, so for us, he be a bust.

Also,

Don Allard 1959 QB Boston College (4th overall)

They drafted three straight QBs in the first round, the last being Norm Snead in '61.(from Dallas 1st overall?) No wonder they stunk for the following decade. Can you imagine the list of guys they passed on with those three picks? Sheesh.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

70 Chip:

I tried to limit the damage by saying one of the worst picks in the last 25 tears. Gary Beban was another Skins first rund pick who stunk and dont even talk bout Ray Macdonald (was that his name?) the 250 lb fullback from Montana or Idaho back in the mid-60s. He was as useless as a chocolate teapot.

If we have seen the best of Partick Ramsey, then he was as useless as Heath Shuler. Neither of them was worth a bucket of warm spit. Now if Ramsey has more to show...

macdonald actually lead the nation in rushing as a senior but NOBODY actually checked him out personally. he had 1 leg that was shorter than the other and played at a smaller school. he was also openly one of the first gay players and that did not go over too well with the vets..
he had a few terrific games inhis first year but that was it for him

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I don't think Ramsey would represent an especially bad bust. Feature these Redskins firts rounders:

Heath Schuler 1994 QB Tenessee
Andre Johnson 1996 T Penn State

I'm giving passes to Desmond Howard and Bobby Wilson based on their SB rings. They, like Ramsey, were mere disappointments.

I'm also betting that 12th overall pick:

Yazoo Smith 1968 DB Oregon or 4th overall pick
Richie Lucas 1960 QB Penn State

didn't exactly set the world on fire, but that was before I was born. Maybe some veteran fans will remember them.

yazoo was tragic. he would have been great had he not been injured.

add kent mcloughan or eugene epps to that list because they ended up signing with afl teams and the skins got zero for the picks

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by shallyshal

yazoo was tragic. he would have been great had he not been injured.

add kent mcloughan or eugene epps to that list because they ended up signing with afl teams and the skins got zero for the picks

lucas was a bust, totally... as was gary beban, a heisman winner.. or cotton speyrer, whom george allen never even wanted near the field...

that is why we were always looking up at the cowboys. brandt drafted rings around the skins