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Old 02-16-2006, 11:54 PM   #1
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Re: Age old Question

You want to maximize value in my view. So, you draft the player with clearly greater talent even if it is not a position you need to fill at that time. To draft the relatively mediocre player because it fills a need does not increase the overall ability level of your team.

You want as many difference making players as you can get. If you have more than you think you need at one position, it can at least make for domination and depth.

Increasing the overall talent level of your team also gives you more flexibility in terms of trades with other teams.

In practical terms, you look to see if the talent level available at your position of need is roughly equal to the talent level of players in the draft who play other positions. If it is, then of course you can focus on need.

It isn't just about drafting for talent or needs of course either - it is also for intelligence, cooperativeness, determination, and other traits that go into making a "Redskin" type of player.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:20 AM   #2
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You want to maximize value in my view. So, you draft the player with clearly greater talent even if it is not a position you need to fill at that time. To draft the relatively mediocre player because it fills a need does not increase the overall ability level of your team.

You want as many difference making players as you can get. If you have more than you think you need at one position, it can at least make for domination and depth.

Increasing the overall talent level of your team also gives you more flexibility in terms of trades with other teams.

In practical terms, you look to see if the talent level available at your position of need is roughly equal to the talent level of players in the draft who play other positions. If it is, then of course you can focus on need.

It isn't just about drafting for talent or needs of course either - it is also for intelligence, cooperativeness, determination, and other traits that go into making a "Redskin" type of player.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:28 AM   #3
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You want to maximize value in my view.
In practical terms, you look to see if the talent level available at your position of need is roughly equal to the talent level of players in the draft who play other positions. If it is, then of course you can focus on need.

Is that you Norvall?

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Old 02-17-2006, 10:18 AM   #4
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Norval? I just fired him. I'm Al D.. I mean, Oakland..uh, Red.

But seriously, thanks for the welcome guys.

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Old 02-17-2006, 11:37 AM   #5
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That thing of "drafting talent over need" came to prominance with the Dallas Cowboys in the '60's & '70's when Gil Brandt, Tex Schram and Tom Landry were running the team. It worked, but it was a different era with fewer teams to go after that talent, so there was always potential contributors who got over looked. A lot of teams upgraded scouting because of the Cowboy's success.

Today, with more teams, more scouts and the scouting combine, nobody gets overlooked. It's near impossible to get a steal in the low and middle rounds. So a team is better off with drafting for need. There isn't much difference in talent level between the Steelers and the Texans, so intangibles become more important. Character, discipline, team resiliance, coaching and injuries.

Draft for need to develop your core group, the "keepers." Recruit talented free agents for role players to fill holes.

ps.: The last time the Redskins picked talent over need, they selected Taylor Jacobs.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:03 PM   #6
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ps.: The last time the Redskins picked talent over need, they selected Taylor Jacobs.
nope, that was just spurrier being an idiot.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:36 PM   #7
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nope, that was just spurrier being an idiot.
True enough and point taken. But at the time, the Ol' Ball Coach and little Vinnie said they were "suprised" to see Jacobs available on the draft board. They had some other player in mind (I forget who) when it was the Skins turn to draft. Instead they changed their strategy to pick up Jacobs on the "best available talent" theory. This from the team that dropped Stephen Davis to make room for Trung Canidate and other idiotic moves too numerous to mention (your point).

WHEN does training camp open? :frusty:
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:59 PM   #8
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True enough and point taken. But at the time, the Ol' Ball Coach and little Vinnie said they were "suprised" to see Jacobs available on the draft board. They had some other player in mind (I forget who) when it was the Skins turn to draft. Instead they changed their strategy to pick up Jacobs on the "best available talent" theory. This from the team that dropped Stephen Davis to make room for Trung Canidate and other idiotic moves too numerous to mention (your point).

WHEN does training camp open? :frusty:
I think that player you're talking about is Mike Doss. Strong safety out of Ohio State who now plays for the Colts.
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