If the extension to the CBA can't get done, then what?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I just can't imagine he's talking about you. It doesn't seem to fit.

Thanks, but I am sure I have said something at some point that sounds obnoxious or arrogrant. My apologies for whatever I did or said.

[Dirtbag59]

So let me get this straight. The reason we want a CBA is because without one we can't restructure deals 3-7 years in the future since their will be no salary cap. And instead of restructuring guys like Jansen, Thomas, Arrington, and Washington we'll have to cut guys like Jansen and Washington to get under the cap. Then we're going to have to carry about 15 rookies on our roster like the Ravens did 2 years removed from the their Super Bowl win.

Also one more question:
Is the reason deals can't be restructured is because its not legal or it would be stupid for the players to do it?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

So let me get this straight. The reason we want a CBA is because without one we can't restructure deals 3-7 years in the future since their will be no salary cap. And instead of restructuring guys like Jansen, Thomas, Arrington, and Washington we'll have to cut guys like Jansen and Washington to get under the cap. Then we're going to have to carry about 15 rookies on our roster like the Ravens did 2 years removed from the their Super Bowl win.

That's how I understand it.

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Also one more question:
Is the reason deals can't be restructured is because its not legal or it would be stupid for the players to do it?

Deals can't be restructured like they used to because we can't covert base salaries into bonuses over the next few seasons because there's no cap extension. I think we can just convert salaries to bonuses and prorate them over the next two seasons.

As for whether it makes sense for the players to restructure, I simply don't know. It might make sense for players to renegotiate if they are well paid right now and they wouldn't command comparable money on the free agent market.

Canuck, care to chime in and help out with your expertise?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

So let me get this straight. The reason we want a CBA is because without one we can't restructure deals 3-7 years in the future since their will be no salary cap. And instead of restructuring guys like Jansen, Thomas, Arrington, and Washington we'll have to cut guys like Jansen and Washington to get under the cap. Then we're going to have to carry about 15 rookies on our roster like the Ravens did 2 years removed from the their Super Bowl win.

Also one more question:
Is the reason deals can't be restructured is because its not legal or it would be stupid for the players to do it?

its legal to restructure, but without a cba the bonuses can't be pro-rated like normal and you have to obey the 30% rule (which means converting 2 years from base salary to bonus instead of one... and with limited pro-ration you end up paying a lot of the money you were trying to move down the road immediately anyways).


the skins only have 3 people with base salaries in the 3.5-4mill range right now (jansen, brunell, and thomas), so there's just not much money to move. (the next highest base salary is 1.5mill which is nearly nothing above vet min).