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[That Guy]

Originally Posted by offiss

Theres a slight difference, when you have pro bowl caliber players in a college backfield compared to NFL pro bowl backfield. Campbell had 2 of the best backs in college behind him, Portis is NOT a top 5 back in the NFL!

he only had one pro bowl type RB is college.

name the 5 best in the nfl please... i'll spot you LT... johnson and alexander can be put up there, but i think anyone behind those lines is going to have crazy numbers (great QB play on both teams too).

[offiss]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he only had one pro bowl type RB is college.

name the 5 best in the nfl please... i'll spot you LT... johnson and alexander can be put up there, but i think anyone behind those lines is going to have crazy numbers (great QB play on both teams too).

You can tac on T.Barber, and E.James, I would add C.Dillion as well.

C.Martin, J.Lewis, P.Holmes, and D.Mcalister have been better up until this past season.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can tac on T.Barber, and E.James, I would add C.Dillion as well.

C.Martin, J.Lewis, P.Holmes, and D.Mcalister have been better up until this past season.

dillion had 700 rushing yards... you're talking crazy :P I agree on tiki though and possibly edge, that puts him at 5th-6th though.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by That Guy

dillion had 700 rushing yards... you're talking crazy :P I agree on tiki though and possibly edge, that puts him at 5th-6th though.

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

Yeah but Portis was worn down at the end of the year. Not a lot of backs could have taken the beating he sustained at the end of the year.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

dillon hit the wall like S davis this year. he's done. If you'd pick him up for a game over portis now, i think you'd have a much higher chance of losing.

YPC also depends a lot on scheme and line quality. dillon was terrible there as well (rocking a 3.5).

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

Is there anyone on the Redskins offense that you actually like? You've been outspoken against Brunell, now ripping Portis, what's next, Moss would be better if he had 14 fingers so he wouldn't drop as many passes?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Is there anyone on the Redskins offense that you actually like? You've been outspoken against Brunell, now ripping Portis, what's next, Moss would be better if he had 14 fingers so he wouldn't drop as many passes?

Of coarse but know one wants to acknowledge the praises I have for certain players, they only want to hear about the negativity of some.

Bottom line most of the opposition to my point about Portis just proves that many here want to remain blind to the truth, they continue to look at our team through burgandy and gold glasses, refusing to acknowledge reality, and the reality is he is not a top 5 back period. If anyone thinks that he's better than the 5 guy's I mentioned, then take off the burgandy and gold glasses.

If you want to say he's a top 5 blocker in the backfield? By all means, but we could have gotten a cheap h-back to do that.

Kind of funny but Rock looked better than Portis running the ball when he had a chance, I will put the label of durable on Portis which allows him to compile stats, but he's not a top 5 back.


Here's a list of players I do like.

Ramsey, Cooley, Moss, Jansen, Thomas, Betts, Washington, Clemons, Taylor, Clark, Salavea, Griffen, Rogers, Springs.

I am up in the air about Samuels, Dockery, Rabach, Marshall - [who I do like but think we can upgrade].

Players I defiently don't like, Brunell, Arrington.

The rest serve a purpose for depth, can't get on them.

I still believe we gave up to much for Portis and could have similar results with other backs but his durability has made him palatable, he has transformed himself into a different type of runner since he left Denver, steroids can do wonders.

But he is not better than, Alexander, Johnson, James, Tiki, or Thomalison, and when healthy Mcalaster.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

he has transformed himself into a different type of runner since he left Denver, steroids can do wonders.

Sorry, but I think your full of it. Show us facts to back up your accusations.

[Sean Taylor is God]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

the two things joe gibbs stresses that he loves about clinton portis are his pass-blocking and physicality. gibbs is not wrong, you are.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can't alway's measure a back by his yards, if I needed a back for 1 game I would take Dillion over Portis, Dillion can make yards with very little blocking, and he will run players over without blinking an eye, I am not grading them on just last seasons stats, but what they are capable of when healthy under normal circumstances, besides yards per carry are more important to me than overall yardage.

It's impossible to take you seriously. Your knowledge of the NFL is atrocious.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's impossible to take you seriously. Your knowledge of the NFL is atrocious.

And it seems to only be getting worse.

Portis on roids?

Are you drunk, offiss?

[Sean Taylor is God]

I invented the question mark!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And it seems to only be getting worse.

Portis on roids?

Are you drunk, offiss?

Kind of funny when you opposed me on david boston and roids a couple of years ago how did that pan out, I was drunk then to wasen't I. Until you have spent the amount of time lifting weights as I have, and understand the body and how it reacts, and the gains that can be expected through weight lifting, you are not quilified to make the diagnoises, anyone who has spent considerable amount of time lifting weights understands that you are not going to put on 15 lbs of muscle in 6 months, ain't happening, you may put on overall body weight and then some, but that will all come off once practices start, and I will guarentee you he will not maintain that weight even if some how he managed to gain that kind of muscle mass in 6 months.

Your body cannot maintain it's weight with the vigors of the NFL season. Players who play and practice every week and finish the season at or bigger than they started, you can take to the bank they are on roids, ESPECIALLY RB'S.

All he's doing though is creating an even playing field, do you really believe at 30 Tiki all of a sudden started running people over, and breaking tackle, after tackle? Come on now. I really am not bashing him for it, whats a player to do when everyone else he runs into is twice the size they should be?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by offiss

You can tac on T.Barber, and E.James, I would add C.Dillion as well.

C.Martin, J.Lewis, P.Holmes, and D.Mcalister have been better up until this past season.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. With the exception of LT, I'd take Portis over any back in the league. Portis is young, a great blocker, a great receiver, a great teammate, and most of all, a great runner. Just about every other back is missing something that Portis has.


Larry Johnson is a close one, but his receiving and pass-blocking skills are sub-par. Johnson looks like a great runner, but I can't say he's better than Portis. Plus, Johnson is running behind the best offensive line in the league.