Brunell is Bad

[Sean Taylor is God]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well on the flipside it doesn't warrant saying "Brunell is bad".

The numbers just don't support your claim. 3050 yards, 23 TDs, 10 INTs. 10 regular season wins and a playoff win. 11th ranked offense.

Nobody is praising Brunell like he's the 2nd coming of Marino, but you're the one that started up a thread that just bashes him for no good reason and from the sounds of it your not willing to give him any credit at all.

Everyone was quick to pile on the blame in 2004 but now those same people aren't willing to give him his proper credit for 2005. You can't have it both ways, he was responsible for the poor offense in '04 and he was just as responsible for the offensive turnaround in '05.

If you have an axe to grind against Brunell just admit it and let's move on. Admit your biased and I can at least accept that.

Believe it or not, I am not biased. I like Brunell' character and personality and he comes across as a good guy. I thought Brunell was the best QB on our roster last season(means nothing). And I don't think '04 was his fault at all. I blame the OL and new team scheme. Giving him credit for last's turn around is irresponsible. We have all seen Gibb's ability to plug components into his system and find success(Rypien and Williams). My point is brunell is a component in an already successful scheme that needed one year to re-tool. The offense is working well together and that is the result of gibb's teaching not brunell's leadership. I think my perspective is much like gibb's right. he brought brunell in to run the offense. he brought in a rookie to be taught. he got what he needed out of brunell but wishes it had been a little more.

Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

Believe it or not, I am not biased. I like Brunell' character and personality and he comes across as a good guy. I thought Brunell was the best QB on our roster last season(means nothing). And I don't think '04 was his fault at all. I blame the OL and new team scheme. Giving him credit for last's turn around is irresponsible. We have all seen Gibb's ability to plug components into his system and find success(Rypien and Williams). My point is brunell is a component in an already successful scheme that needed one year to re-tool. The offense is working well together and that is the result of gibb's teaching not brunell's leadership. I think my perspective is much like gibb's right. he brought brunell in to run the offense. he brought in a rookie to be taught. he got what he needed out of brunell but wishes it had been a little more.

Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

So I guess all the good years he put in Jacksonville was a product of the system too. Are you kidding? He was injured in 2004, and played through the pain all year. That shows the confindence he has in an injured Brunell and a 100% healthy Ramsey. To say his productivity is due to the system is off, way off. Brunell has been through out his career, a good QB. QB rating of 80 a far better completion percentage than anyone playing and TD to INT ratio. Give it a rest.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

Believe it or not, I am not biased. I like Brunell' character and personality and he comes across as a good guy. I thought Brunell was the best QB on our roster last season(means nothing). And I don't think '04 was his fault at all. I blame the OL and new team scheme. Giving him credit for last's turn around is irresponsible. We have all seen Gibb's ability to plug components into his system and find success(Rypien and Williams). My point is brunell is a component in an already successful scheme that needed one year to re-tool. The offense is working well together and that is the result of gibb's teaching not brunell's leadership. I think my perspective is much like gibb's right. he brought brunell in to run the offense. he brought in a rookie to be taught. he got what he needed out of brunell but wishes it had been a little more.

Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

I don't believe anybody is giving him sole credit for our turnaround this past season, but it is truly irresponsible to give him absolutely no credit whatsoever. If Gibbs truly thought Brunell "sucks" he would not have been starting Brunell this past year. He drafted Campbell because Gibbs knows Brunell isn't going to be playing for another 10 years. Gibbs didn't draft Campbell because Brunell sucks. That to me sounds quite ignorant. Sorry, but it does.

Gibbs brought Brunell in to run the offense and to teach the younger qbs how to manage the offense and how to be good leaders. Gibbs also brought Brunell in, because he felt Mark gave us a chance to be successful, and so far, Gibbs has been absolutely right. Mark will, again, be our starter on opening day this season. He may or may not finish as our starting quarterback, but there is no reason to make a change now.

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

Gibb's knows Brunell sucks, that is why he drafted Campbell and that's why campbell will be our opening day starter.

I think we drafted Campbell because Gibbs thinks Ramsey sucks, not Brunell.

Can't believe I got sucked into this thread.

[Sean Taylor is God]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I think we drafted Campbell because Gibbs thinks Ramsey sucks, not Brunell.

Can't believe I got sucked into this thread.

I think it's because he thinks both of them suck.