Brunell Reworks Deal (FKA "Brunell Reluctant to Renegotiate Deal")

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That makes way too much sense, it's easier to just label him a bitch.

He's probably on roids too, and in his roid rage he's refusing to restructure.

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jdlea

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

I don't disagree, I would just prefer see the big picture rather than just jumping to conclusions and assume he's just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't disagree, I would just prefer see the big picture rather than just jumping to conclusions and assume he's just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

Aw, man...have a heart. The only exercise some of us get is jumping to conclusions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Huddle

Aw, man...have a heart. The only exercise some of us get is jumping to conclusions.

You mean you don't lift weights?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Huddle

Aw, man...have a heart. The only exercise some of us get is jumping to conclusions.

You KNOW that the guy who invented the pet rock MADE a million dollars. Gives me an idea...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

You KNOW that the guy who invented the pet rock MADE a million dollars. Gives me an idea...

Do you have a prototype you can show us?

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by jdlea

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It seems one of the themes of this forum is to hate on anyone that makes a lot of money, or wants more money. It happened with Samuels, Smoot and Pierce, and it's happening to Arrington right now. But of course there's a double standard when it comes to Brunell, and we have to think rationally about what the reason could be for him not restructuring...

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Yeah, I noticed that too. It seems one of the themes of this forum is to hate on anyone that makes a lot of money, or wants more money. It happened with Samuels, Smoot and Pierce, and it's happening to Arrington right now. But of course there's a double standard when it comes to Brunell, and we have to think rationally about what the reason could be for him not restructuring...

When it comes to renegotiating, I have give more leniency to the player that has been a team player throughout his stay with our organization. Someone who never questions the coaches decisions, and supports the other people around him without question, even when they are trying to take his job. I like what Mark Brunell does for our team, 1000 times more than I like what Lavar does for our team. Mark and Joe are the same type of man. I know that no matter what happens, Mark will not shoot us in the foot if he can honestly avoid it.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Monksdown

When it comes to renegotiating, I have give more leniency to the player that has been a team player throughout his stay with our organization. Someone who never questions the coaches decisions, and supports the other people around him without question, even when they are trying to take his job. I like what Mark Brunell does for our team, 1000 times more than I like what Lavar does for our team. Mark and Joe are the same type of man. I know that no matter what happens, Mark will not shoot us in the foot if he can honestly avoid it.

LaVar has already come out and said that he would restructure. I also know he's restructured more than once for this team. He complained one time to the media before the Eagles game. How much did it hurt the team? LaVar said all the right things to ESPN when he had an interview about his being benched. He put the blame on himself. I don't think that you can say LaVar isn't a team player.

I do agree that Mark is a team player, but I don't necessarily agree that LaVar isn't.

As for giving either the benefit of the doubt, I thought it was all just business. That means we shouldn't give anyone the benefit of the doubt cause emotional attachment has no place in these decisions.

[Monksdown]

Sorry. Sometimes I go off on a "I hate Lavar" tangent. It's the most uncomfortable during dates. Where I realize I've been talking about the cap, and how useless Lavar is. I look up, and she is already trying to end the date.

[irish]

Originally Posted by jdlea

While I don't believe this comment was necessarily directed at me, I feel the need to respond. I don't think that Mark Brunell is any different from LaVar when it comes to the need to restructure his deal. We have to get LaVar restructured cause it would cost too much to cut him. We need to get Brunell restructured cause we are way over the cap and need to get under. I do think that calling him a "bitch" might be a little out of line, but we desperately need cap space. If he refuses to renegotiate his deal, he's pretty much an ass.

As for Mark Brunell and the business aspect is concerned...people on this site hate LaVar because of how much he's paid. That may not be everyone, but a lot of people think if he doesn't restructure he's gone. So, I think people should be able to think the same about Mark Brunell.

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by irish

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

No, it's not a double standard. Anytime a player in this league looks out for himself that makes them a prick. It's a double standard if people give Mark Brunell a pass. How is this that much different from what TO did? It's not that much different. The same thing happened with Samuels last year where he needed to restructure or we would need to cut him. Very few people on this site came to his defense. Anytime a player doesn't put the team first that makes them a bad person. I'm taking a harder stance than I feel because everyone else is so eager to give him a pass on this. That's bs. People hate on LaVar cause of what he makes. If he doesn't restructure people will be crucifying him on this site. The same should go for Brunell.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by irish

Why is MB an ass for looking out for what he views as his own best interests? The minute he's of no use to the skins he will be gone because the skins are looking out for their best interests so why can he look out for his? Sounds like a double standard.

Why doesn't this same logic apply to Arrington, Smoot, Bailey, Pierce and Ramsey?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Why doesn't this same logic apply to Arrington, Smoot, Bailey, Pierce and Ramsey?

Who said it didnt? I sure didnt.

Like I said in a previous post I think the player needs to weigh whether renegotiating and staying is the best thing for his career. If it is then reneg, if not then tell the team sorry. The NFL is a meat grinder and players are chewed-up and spit out fast with, imo, little regard and compensation by the teams so they need to get as much as they can as fast as they can.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by irish

Who said it didnt? I sure didnt.

Like I said in a previous post I think the player needs to weigh whether renegotiating and staying is the best thing for his career. If it is then reneg, if not then tell the team sorry. The NFL is a meat grinder and players are chewed-up and spit out fast with, imo, little regard and compensation by the teams so they need to get as much as they can as fast as they can.

I actually agree with you. My issue is that there's a double standard if people give Brunell a pass while other guys like TO or LaVar get torn down for getting paid or wanting to get paid. It's not that much of a different and that's what I'm trying to get people to acknowledge. If he chooses not to restructure, it's a similar situation.