Recent League Salary Cap Cuts

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Big C

ill have mike williams, offensive tackle. 26 years old, former 4th overall pick or something top 5. he is a solid player already, bugel could take him to the next level

What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by saden1

What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.

yeah. i'm surpried charles rodgers hasn't been shown the door yet. his contract is absolutely awful and he's worthless. sometimes you just get a bust though i guess.

[Big C]

Originally Posted by saden1

What? Williams was relegated to second string after two years. Man, if a top 5 pick is getting cut before his first contract expires he has got some serious problems.

u dont think he has talent that bugel could work with?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Big C

u dont think he has talent that bugel could work with?

bugel isn't superman, he's a good OL coach. Some players just flat out suck.
otherwise i'd be first in line to give it a shot.

cross-sports example: Kwame Brown was taken #1 overall. But his stats indicate he should be bounced from the league immediately. just causse a guy is taken high doesn't mean he'll be any good. Ryan Leaf et al.

[jermus22]

We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by jermus22

We once drafted a dude named Wally Kleine out of Notre Dame back in the late '80s. He was an offensive tackle taken in the second round and was 6'9" 320 lbs (a real monster back in those days). But he never started and he ended up staying with us for only a few years before getting out of football altogether. I think Bugel was the o-line coach back in those days, but he couldn't get Kleine to measure up to his potential. I'm not saying Bugel isn't a good coach, but a player must have the motivation, character, and work ethic to improve before a coach can fix his problems. That might be the problem with Mike Williams from the Bills.

i remember kleine well... you could also add andre johnson to the list. lasted barely 2 season with the skins despite being a first round pick..

you need feet to be a good lineman, not just size