Lavar Gone

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Is there anyone who thinks that Lavar will make less next year because he turned down the Redskins offer? PFT (insert various disclaimers) says that he would have to get a 10.9 million bonus +545k base salary in order to break even. What are his prospects on the open Market? I think that coaches around the league would have questions based on his performance the last two years. Perhaps this is the reason for the Marty rumors.

he didn't get along with dale lindsey and there was no way he'd get that 6.5mill bonus. when that was added back to the contract he was already gone. A july 15th bonus? how worthless is that?

[saden1]

LaVar said "I want to come back and walk in FedEx Field once a year." Now that sounds personal! I'm pretty sure he'll sign with the Giants as they have depleted LB core.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by saden1

LaVar said "I want to come back and walk in FedEx Field once a year." Now that sounds personal! I'm pretty sure he'll sign with the Giants as they have depleted LB core.

After reading that in the Post article, he's dead to me. Hopefully he'll be out of position when we play him and Portis will break off a big one.

Given that the NFC East rivals are all in the market for OLBs and Arrington wants to play in the NFC East, who does he go to? Cowboys, Eagles, or Giants? I say he goes to the Cowboys (even though he says it might tough to go there and he ended Aikman's career). He'd love that sort of drama.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

After reading that in the Post article, he's dead to me. Hopefully he'll be out of position when we play him and Portis will break off a big one.

Given that the NFC East rivals are all in the market for OLBs and Arrington wants to play in the NFC East, who does he go to? Cowboys, Eagles, or Giants? I say he goes to the Cowboys (even though he says it might tough to go there and he ended Aikman's career). He'd love that sort of drama.

yeah, he would love that drama. Actually, while I love Lavar, I disagree w/some who talk about his "passion" for the game. He's got a passion for the big play but at the expense of every down consistency.That said,I think he's looking for the biggest stage possible, where he can begin to market himself for life after football, maybe do more ads & try some acting. Dallas would give him a lot of exposure & the drama would be huge when we play them. J. Jones would love to sign him, but i bet parcell's would not be so quick to agree. They just drafted Demarcus Ware & he plays weakside, Lavar's natural position. Plus, I don't see Parcells appreciating his game that much. on the other hand, Lavar's at a point where he needs to prove himself to a coaching staff. Kinda like Keyshaun but w/different circumstances. I think Lavar will become a good linebacker somewhere, better than he was for us, but maybe not for that much longer. Ultimately I think he'll get out of football after 3 years. I don't think its his life like it is for some guys who play to their mid 30s.
It will be interesting to see if Coughlin or Reid will want him as well. Coughlin could be swayed by AP for or against lavar, & Reid & co. might not want to take on another attention seeking ego w/baggage after their TO debacle.

[#56fanatic]

You act like LaVar is a disruption to the team. There are going to be a ton of teams out there trying to bring him in. They wont need to be persuaded into signing him. Right now there is said to be 10 teams, all the NFC east teams are some of them. Parcells, not interested in #56, are you crazy! He is the mold of LT, passionate, looking to kill the QB, fast, strong, great athlete. I think it will be hard for him not to sign him.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

You act like LaVar is a disruption to the team. There are going to be a ton of teams out there trying to bring him in. They wont need to be persuaded into signing him. Right now there is said to be 10 teams, all the NFC east teams are some of them. Parcells, not interested in #56, are you crazy! He is the mold of LT, passionate, looking to kill the QB, fast, strong, great athlete. I think it will be hard for him not to sign him.

i know you got a man crush, but seriously. he and dale lindsey were yelling at each other in the locker rooms and some players were siding with lavar. he was a distraction and gibbs is all about the team. he also whined to the media more often than he should have.

He's handled his parting of ways very very well, and he's always been completely clean off the field and been good with the media.

BUT,
he never liked film study and never made much of an attempt to improve his game. he didn't use move (rip, tear, spin) when rushing the QB as much as trying to bowl people over. lindsey probably got pretty pissed becauses out of all the LBs here, he was the only one that didn't work on technique or field awareness. He's been living on his natural talent thusfar and the problem, of course, is once you get hurt and slow down your advantage over other players becomes much less noticeable.

sean taylor also has the same type of crazy talent, but he's been working on technique and film study, and he's already making plays like he did in college.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

You act like LaVar is a disruption to the team. There are going to be a ton of teams out there trying to bring him in. They wont need to be persuaded into signing him. Right now there is said to be 10 teams, all the NFC east teams are some of them. Parcells, not interested in #56, are you crazy! He is the mold of LT, passionate, looking to kill the QB, fast, strong, great athlete. I think it will be hard for him not to sign him.

He was at some point, though that gets into a complicated mess w/his notorious agents & who was to blame for starting that. I don't know that any of us can make that call in the $ dispute, but as fans we have read that several coaches dating back to P.St. have been frustrated w/his freelancing (see an earlier post, believe it was mattyk).
don't get me wrong, I'm a lavar fan & i really wanted to see him stay & mature, but don't overstate his performance, he's a home run hitter, which means he also strikes out a lot. He was stunted by the coaching turnover (as today's wilbon article points out), but he's never seemed to play disciplined in any system.
If parcells wants him where will they play him? Strongside linebacker? Move D. Ware to strongside & put Lavar at weakside. That might work best, but then they'd have their best pass rusher, Ware, over the tight end. Somebody would be unhappy. I'm not crazy, but comparing LA to LT seems close. I could see him in Dallas only if they got him for a very cheap price, say $1 mil/year w/bonus at 2-3 mil. The Giants, that seems more likely. Of course a lot of other teams will be interested in him, he's only 27. According to espn.com a lot of teams were interested in 31 yr. old Derek Smith, but that doesn't make him a hall of famer.

[BigSKINBauer]

i was reading the thing from PFT on the eagles site. Do we save 10 point whatever million? If so this is amazing. I feel bad for lavar though. This is more the coaches faul than his. Maybe I haven't got a chance to hear the coaches(i missed dale lindsey on bram so if someone could say some key points) and I am just taking lavar's word for it. Could it be true he really did this for the skins.


remember this?

[That Guy]

we only save 4mill

[BigSKINBauer]

Yah he is on my mothers side of the family...

FAT SAK.... its funny to me.


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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

yes, I've had a rough day and I'm doing anything I can to take my mind off stuff

Let's anagramize BigSkinBauer

U are gibbs kin...woah! (as you can see, I had to remove an "i" to make it work)

Actually i must say that i see no removal of any "i". I have two "i"s in my name and there are two 'i's in that anagram. That is awesome!

that is one talent you got there.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

Yah he is on my mothers side of the family...

FAT SAK.... its funny to me.


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Actually i must say that i see no removal of any "i". I have two "i"s in my name and there are two 'i's in that anagram. That is awesome!

that is one talent you got there.

hey you're right, I don't know why I said you had to remove an "i"

[#56fanatic]

Everybody wants to hate on the guy, but fact is fact he is going to be so motivated to get back to his old self. He is going to sign with a NFC east team, and as Wilbon said this morning, Parcells mouth is watering seeing that 56 on the free agent market. For some reason we failed to use LaVar in ways that would maximize his talent. If Parcells signs him, you watch out. the guy will make plays all day long. I just have a very bad feeling about him saying he wants to walk back into fed x once a year. All 3 NFC east teams are looking for OLB, so its a very high percentage he will sign with one of those teams. Its going to turn out to be one of the stupidest moves of all time for the Redskins.

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Everybody wants to hate on the guy, but fact is fact he is going to be so motivated to get back to his old self. He is going to sign with a NFC east team, and as Wilbon said this morning, Parcells mouth is watering seeing that 56 on the free agent market. For some reason we failed to use LaVar in ways that would maximize his talent. If Parcells signs him, you watch out. the guy will make plays all day long. I just have a very bad feeling about him saying he wants to walk back into fed x once a year. All 3 NFC east teams are looking for OLB, so its a very high percentage he will sign with one of those teams. Its going to turn out to be one of the stupidest moves of all time for the Redskins.

Who's hating him? I'm crushed that he's gone and terrified that he might come back...even once a year! I just wish he would stay away from the NFC East so that we could continue to cheer for him regularly.

I like Coach Gibbs and Coach Williams, but this is one time I want them to go home kicking themselves for not figuring out how to use a player.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Everybody wants to hate on the guy, but fact is fact he is going to be so motivated to get back to his old self. He is going to sign with a NFC east team, and as Wilbon said this morning, Parcells mouth is watering seeing that 56 on the free agent market. For some reason we failed to use LaVar in ways that would maximize his talent. If Parcells signs him, you watch out. the guy will make plays all day long. I just have a very bad feeling about him saying he wants to walk back into fed x once a year. All 3 NFC east teams are looking for OLB, so its a very high percentage he will sign with one of those teams. Its going to turn out to be one of the stupidest moves of all time for the Redskins.

I will agree we did not do the best job of using his talent but I will have to add that he did not use his talent to fit the team. I think Lavar thought that after his injury he could just strap on his shoes and be the starter. He did not do what the coaches wanted to learn the system and thus did not get himself in position to play and make plays. He has alot of god given talent but it is a team sport and in Williams D it requires players to be patient and wait for the play to come to them. He will make alot of big plays for another team but how many will he give up. Its like a corner who always goes for the ball. On one play they look great but they get beat way to often.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I will agree we did not do the best job of using his talent but I will have to add that he did not use his talent to fit the team. I think Lavar thought that after his injury he could just strap on his shoes and be the starter. He did not do what the coaches wanted to learn the system and thus did not get himself in position to play and make plays. He has alot of god given talent but it is a team sport and in Williams D it requires players to be patient and wait for the play to come to them. He will make alot of big plays for another team but how many will he give up. Its like a corner who always goes for the ball. On one play they look great but they get beat way to often.

I am seriously tired of all that crap and talk of him not playing within the system. blah blah blah. that is retarded. The guy is a fanominal LB and Dallas,NY,or Philly will use him and find out exactly what we couldn't. The guy went through 5 or 6 different coaches learning a new position, a new scheme every single year. name a player on that defense that has been through that year in and year out. Wynn, so what, he plays end. there is no one else. Go to work and have a different boss with you learniing a new job every year and see how you do. it will take a while. the fact is in 3 of those 5 years he made the pro bowl. This year would have been the first time he had played with the same D-cord since he was drafted. He got hurt, then lost his job. Just like trotter now beasting it up in Philly because we cut him too early before he was 100%, same thing with LaVar. He will be back to his old self and got help Brunell or Campbell when Dallas comes to town. LaVar will kill em!