Lavar Gone

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

You act like LaVar is a disruption to the team. There are going to be a ton of teams out there trying to bring him in. They wont need to be persuaded into signing him. Right now there is said to be 10 teams, all the NFC east teams are some of them. Parcells, not interested in #56, are you crazy! He is the mold of LT, passionate, looking to kill the QB, fast, strong, great athlete. I think it will be hard for him not to sign him.

He was at some point, though that gets into a complicated mess w/his notorious agents & who was to blame for starting that. I don't know that any of us can make that call in the $ dispute, but as fans we have read that several coaches dating back to P.St. have been frustrated w/his freelancing (see an earlier post, believe it was mattyk).
don't get me wrong, I'm a lavar fan & i really wanted to see him stay & mature, but don't overstate his performance, he's a home run hitter, which means he also strikes out a lot. He was stunted by the coaching turnover (as today's wilbon article points out), but he's never seemed to play disciplined in any system.
If parcells wants him where will they play him? Strongside linebacker? Move D. Ware to strongside & put Lavar at weakside. That might work best, but then they'd have their best pass rusher, Ware, over the tight end. Somebody would be unhappy. I'm not crazy, but comparing LA to LT seems close. I could see him in Dallas only if they got him for a very cheap price, say $1 mil/year w/bonus at 2-3 mil. The Giants, that seems more likely. Of course a lot of other teams will be interested in him, he's only 27. According to espn.com a lot of teams were interested in 31 yr. old Derek Smith, but that doesn't make him a hall of famer.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Sorry to be so late with a comment but I've been in East Africa for the past two weeks.

This rupture between Arrington and the Redskins happened two years ago when there was the dispute over his contract and the Redskins played hard-ball with him. Yes, they had the signed contract on their side, but they CHOSE to play hardball and that put a crack in the "Redskin-for-life" posture. Then there was the business about how the team "mishandled" his injury two seasons ago and don't forget how he said he didn't know why he wasn't playing last year and Gibbs said he spent more time talking to LaVar than he did with any other player he ever coached. The relationship there was headed south...

Folks, this was a train wreck happening and all you had to do was take off the burgundy colored glasses and you'd see it. Who's to blame? Probably everyone involved here. And it won't do a damned bit of good to try to assess the blame.

Here's the deal. Gibbs and Williams want a "system defense" made up of highly disciplined players who carry out their assignments. LaVar Arrington does not prefer to play football that way and there was fundamental friction there and there would have been friction there in the future if he stayed.

The question in my mind is why didn't the Skins figure out a way to get Coles to pay them to become a free agent last year? If someone doesn't want to stay here and the coaches don't want to have them around all that much, wouldn't it be nice to make them pay the team $4M for the privilege of leaving town?

By my calculation, Arrington is out $4M at the moment. He was not likely ever to see the $6.5M roster bonus he was supposed to get this summer so that is not any real loss to him. Now what he needs to do is to get a deal that pays him a $4M signing bonus plus a base salary this year bigger than the one he had last year and he's ahead of the game. At age 27, he's likely to get that.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

The question in my mind is why didn't the Skins figure out a way to get Coles to pay them to become a free agent last year? If someone doesn't want to stay here and the coaches don't want to have them around all that much, wouldn't it be nice to make them pay the team $4M for the privilege of leaving town?

coles offered, but if he paid, they wouldn't have gotten anythign in return for him. Moss and his currently undervalued contract is a much better deal than the 5mill.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Sorry to be so late with a comment but I've been in East Africa for the past two weeks.

This rupture between Arrington and the Redskins happened two years ago when there was the dispute over his contract and the Redskins played hard-ball with him. Yes, they had the signed contract on their side, but they CHOSE to play hardball and that put a crack in the "Redskin-for-life" posture. Then there was the business about how the team "mishandled" his injury two seasons ago and don't forget how he said he didn't know why he wasn't playing last year and Gibbs said he spent more time talking to LaVar than he did with any other player he ever coached. The relationship there was headed south...

Folks, this was a train wreck happening and all you had to do was take off the burgundy colored glasses and you'd see it. Who's to blame? Probably everyone involved here. And it won't do a damned bit of good to try to assess the blame.

Here's the deal. Gibbs and Williams want a "system defense" made up of highly disciplined players who carry out their assignments. LaVar Arrington does not prefer to play football that way and there was fundamental friction there and there would have been friction there in the future if he stayed.

The question in my mind is why didn't the Skins figure out a way to get Coles to pay them to become a free agent last year? If someone doesn't want to stay here and the coaches don't want to have them around all that much, wouldn't it be nice to make them pay the team $4M for the privilege of leaving town?

By my calculation, Arrington is out $4M at the moment. He was not likely ever to see the $6.5M roster bonus he was supposed to get this summer so that is not any real loss to him. Now what he needs to do is to get a deal that pays him a $4M signing bonus plus a base salary this year bigger than the one he had last year and he's ahead of the game. At age 27, he's likely to get that.

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The cba situation gave the team leverage as opposed to Coles' situation last year. Also, I think Coles called them on a "promise" to release him, one of Gibbs' mistakes not to be repeated.
The "hardball" stance that the skins took probably had as much to do w/his agents than w/Lavar. I think Snyder took it personally that Lavar sided w/the postons (who Danny hates) over him more than just the issue of $6.5 mil.