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View Poll Results: The Redskins' first acquisition (either through free agency or trade) will be...
WR Antwaan Randle El 23 15.65%
WR David Givens 12 8.16%
WR Isaac Bruce 31 21.09%
LB Julian Peterson 12 8.16%
LB Will Witherspoon 9 6.12%
DE John Abraham 17 11.56%
DE Darren Howard 9 6.12%
DE Trevor Pryce 3 2.04%
CB Ty Law 0 0%
CB Nate Clements 1 0.68%
S Adam Archuleta 17 11.56%
DT Rocky Bernard 1 0.68%
Other 12 8.16%
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Old 03-09-2006, 09:56 AM   #1
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I TOTALLY disagree with this. Bruce knows our system, he played under Martz for several years who is a disciple of the Gibbs offense. The guy could come right in and run solid routes for us. I wouldn't pay a lot for him because as you say he is old, but he is still an effective receiver. It was only one year ago that he had 89 catches and 1292 yards. Last year he missed 5 games, got nagged by injuries all season, and Martz was sidelined. I wouldn't pay a lot for him given that we could get a David Givens for pretty cheap, but Bruce would be able to come in and assimilate our offense very quickly. He knows the Saunders style offense already.
That is just rediculous. Pay a guy a few million dollars for a year, he retires, then we are stuck w/ his dead money the next year or two. We do not need another 30 something year old receiver. we have two already
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That is just rediculous. Pay a guy a few million dollars for a year, he retires, then we are stuck w/ his dead money the next year or two. We do not need another 30 something year old receiver. we have two already
So where did you hear that Bruce is planning on retiring after next year? Because I didn't see that article, perhaps you could link it here? That's a ridiculous assumption to make.

You know what we really need? A WR to come here and make an impact, take pressure off Santana Moss, and gel right away with our offense. His familiarity with Al Saunders makes him the perfect fit.

I'm not saying break the bank for the guy, but he's the best available option for us.
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So where did you hear that Bruce is planning on retiring after next year? Because I didn't see that article, perhaps you could link it here? That's a ridiculous assumption to make.

You know what we really need? A WR to come here and make an impact, take pressure off Santana Moss, and gel right away with our offense. His familiarity with Al Saunders makes him the perfect fit.

I'm not saying break the bank for the guy, but he's the best available option for us.
HE IS 34. ARE WE BRING BACK GEORGE ALLEN AND GETTING THE OVER THE HILL GANG BACK TOGETHER!! WHY PAY A 34 YEAR OLD GUY WHEN THERE ARE YOUNGER, FASTER, BIGGER, MORE PRODUCTIVE, AND ALL IN ALL BETTER RECEIVERS ON THE MARKET. YOU PEOPLE ARE BASING IT ON HIS NAME AND PREVIOUS YEARS STATISTICS. HE WAS HURT LAST YEAR, NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE OTHER GAMES. I AM NOT SAYING HE WOULDN'T BE SERVICABLE, BUT REALLY, WHY NOT MOULDS, BIGGER(WHICH WE NEED) A LITTLE YOUNGER. WHY NOT JEVON WALKER, HE IS BIGGER, BETTER, 7 YEARS YOUNGER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR RANDEL EL, HES THE SAME PLAYER, SIZE AND SPEED WISE.
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HE IS 34. ARE WE BRING BACK GEORGE ALLEN AND GETTING THE OVER THE HILL GANG BACK TOGETHER!! WHY PAY A 34 YEAR OLD GUY WHEN THERE ARE YOUNGER, FASTER, BIGGER, MORE PRODUCTIVE, AND ALL IN ALL BETTER RECEIVERS ON THE MARKET. YOU PEOPLE ARE BASING IT ON HIS NAME AND PREVIOUS YEARS STATISTICS. HE WAS HURT LAST YEAR, NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE OTHER GAMES. I AM NOT SAYING HE WOULDN'T BE SERVICABLE, BUT REALLY, WHY NOT MOULDS, BIGGER(WHICH WE NEED) A LITTLE YOUNGER. WHY NOT JEVON WALKER, HE IS BIGGER, BETTER, 7 YEARS YOUNGER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR RANDEL EL, HES THE SAME PLAYER, SIZE AND SPEED WISE.
All caps really is unnecessary. I agree that we should consider age, but that can't be a deciding factor. You can't deny that consistent receivers can have great careers after the age of 34. Does production decrease? absolutley. However someone with a performance as consistent as Moulds or Bruce...it's hard to argue they wouldn't contribute to the team with great success. We're not asking him to be a #1 receiever. We're asking him to be an threat. Andre Reed for example had approx 800 yds his 13th and 14th seasons for BUFF. Jerry Rice produced solid numbers for 19 seasons! Don't brush off Bruce yet.
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HE IS 34. ARE WE BRING BACK GEORGE ALLEN AND GETTING THE OVER THE HILL GANG BACK TOGETHER!! WHY PAY A 34 YEAR OLD GUY WHEN THERE ARE YOUNGER, FASTER, BIGGER, MORE PRODUCTIVE, AND ALL IN ALL BETTER RECEIVERS ON THE MARKET. YOU PEOPLE ARE BASING IT ON HIS NAME AND PREVIOUS YEARS STATISTICS. HE WAS HURT LAST YEAR, NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE OTHER GAMES. I AM NOT SAYING HE WOULDN'T BE SERVICABLE, BUT REALLY, WHY NOT MOULDS, BIGGER(WHICH WE NEED) A LITTLE YOUNGER. WHY NOT JEVON WALKER, HE IS BIGGER, BETTER, 7 YEARS YOUNGER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR RANDEL EL, HES THE SAME PLAYER, SIZE AND SPEED WISE.
that hurts my eyes *cries*

were you opposed to brunell, springs and patten when we signed them?
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that hurts my eyes *cries*

were you opposed to brunell, springs and patten when we signed them?
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Old 03-09-2006, 02:11 PM   #7
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that hurts my eyes *cries*

were you opposed to brunell, springs and patten when we signed them?
Brunell = YES!!
Springs = Not really, he was 28,29. I did not like the length and signing bonus
Patten = not as old as Bruce, 32 is two years younger than 34 and it makes a difference in the NFL>
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HE IS 34. ARE WE BRING BACK GEORGE ALLEN AND GETTING THE OVER THE HILL GANG BACK TOGETHER!! WHY PAY A 34 YEAR OLD GUY WHEN THERE ARE YOUNGER, FASTER, BIGGER, MORE PRODUCTIVE, AND ALL IN ALL BETTER RECEIVERS ON THE MARKET. YOU PEOPLE ARE BASING IT ON HIS NAME AND PREVIOUS YEARS STATISTICS. HE WAS HURT LAST YEAR, NOT VERY PRODUCTIVE OTHER GAMES. I AM NOT SAYING HE WOULDN'T BE SERVICABLE, BUT REALLY, WHY NOT MOULDS, BIGGER(WHICH WE NEED) A LITTLE YOUNGER. WHY NOT JEVON WALKER, HE IS BIGGER, BETTER, 7 YEARS YOUNGER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO FOR RANDEL EL, HES THE SAME PLAYER, SIZE AND SPEED WISE.
OK seriously man, why the caps? Does it make you feel better writing in bigger letters? Does it make your point more valid?

Besides, not only are you yellin and most definitely not gellin, but you're also not making any sense. How can you crap on Bruce for being 34, and then turn around and advocate for Eric Moulds, who is 33?? And I have no idea why you keep saying Isaac Bruce is small, he's 6'0"!!!

Javon Walker is not available.

WTF is going on up in this place??
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OK seriously man, why the caps? Does it make you feel better writing in bigger letters? Does it make your point more valid?

Besides, not only are you yellin and most definitely not gellin, but you're also not making any sense. How can you crap on Bruce for being 34, and then turn around and advocate for Eric Moulds, who is 33?? And I have no idea why you keep saying Isaac Bruce is small, he's 6'0"!!!

Javon Walker is not available.

WTF is going on up in this place??
If we're going to get particular, Bruce won't actually turn 34 until November 10. And, interesting to note, that the last 4 years his YPC have gone up each year while Moulds' have gone down.
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OK seriously man, why the caps? Does it make you feel better writing in bigger letters? Does it make your point more valid?

Besides, not only are you yellin and most definitely not gellin, but you're also not making any sense. How can you crap on Bruce for being 34, and then turn around and advocate for Eric Moulds, who is 33?? And I have no idea why you keep saying Isaac Bruce is small, he's 6'0"!!!

Javon Walker is not available.

WTF is going on up in this place??
I stand corrected on the age, Bruce is currently 33, but will be 34 in Nov, Moulds will be 33 in July. dont worry about how I type. Caps, not caps, who cares? I thought Moulds was 2-3 years younger than Bruce. When did 6' become big?
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I stand corrected on the age, Bruce is currently 33, but will be 34 in Nov, Moulds will be 33 in July. dont worry about how I type. Caps, not caps, who cares? I thought Moulds was 2-3 years younger than Bruce. When did 6' become big?
6' has been plenty tall enough for Bruce to put up some excellent numbers over the course of his career. It's just a lame argument, makes no sense.
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6' has been plenty tall enough for Bruce to put up some excellent numbers over the course of his career. It's just a lame argument, makes no sense.
nothing really makes sense to you unless we agree with you, so thats not surprising. all arguments are lame if they are not on your side of the fence. I dont like spending money on a 34 past their prime WR. You do, so what. We have two small WR 5-9ish. I think(THINK) we need a big WR.
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That is just rediculous. Pay a guy a few million dollars for a year, he retires, then we are stuck w/ his dead money the next year or two. We do not need another 30 something year old receiver. we have two already
which two? the starters are what matters and moss is ~26.
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