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[That Guy]

Originally Posted by dgack

86 yards a game? On what planet?

9 games played, 217 total yards, 0 TD. That's 24 yards a game. One game with > 60 yards receiving. ONE. And he had 7 catches that game, so the ypc is pretty abysmal.

Dump Patten. Dump Thrash. Dump Jacobs. Your net loss there is 25 yards a game of receiving. If you can't get a 25 yard/game guy off the FA wire, might as well hang it up.

that'd be on earth sir. he pulled coverage and left others open. do the math.

he averaged 24yard/game
moss got 30 more yard/game before his injury
other receivers got 8 more yards/game before his injury than after
TEs got 10 more yard/game receiving before his injury
RBs got 14 more yard/game receiving before his injury

that's 86 extra receiving yards a game.

people are so eager to send him down river, but he really did help others get open (especially moss, cooley, and portis). I think if he's back even as the #2, you'll see better production of the passing game. He's somebody you have to keep cause he's WAY better than anyone else we've got (barring moss).

[dgack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

that'd be on earth sir. he pulled coverage and left others open. do the math.

he averaged 24yard/game
moss got 30 more yard/game before his injury
other receivers got 8 more yards/game before his injury than after
TEs got 10 more yard/game receiving before his injury
RBs got 14 more yard/game receiving before his injury

that's 86 extra receiving yards a game.

That's some interesting number-crunching -- did Patten's agent come up with that? I mean, I hear what you're saying -- any WR2 who can catch halfway reliably is going to draw some coverage. But what you're describing is the failure of any other WR on the team to catch a ball, not Patten's excellence.

You can also see that Portis' workload increased dramatically once defenses were able to key on Santana and Cooley. That's doesn't mean that Patten can magically manifest an extra 40 yards a game of rushing by His Mere Presence. It just means the coaching staff adjusted their game plan.

Look, I'm not saying Patten is horrible. He's a serviceable veteran who's capable of catching a few footballs. I just don't buy this whole "Patten's our WR2 and this year when he's healthy he's going to kick ass" line of debate.

There's just nothing in his recent game performances or statlines that provide any reason to think that he's going to suddenly become some badass, game breaking WR2. And for that reason, I think we absolutely need to sign someone who *can* provide that kind of threat.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by dgack

That's some interesting number-crunching -- did Patten's agent come up with that? I mean, I hear what you're saying -- any WR2 who can catch halfway reliably is going to draw some coverage. But what you're describing is the failure of any other WR on the team to catch a ball, not Patten's excellence.

You can also see that Portis' workload increased dramatically once defenses were able to key on Santana and Cooley. That's doesn't mean that Patten can magically manifest an extra 40 yards a game of rushing by His Mere Presence. It just means the coaching staff adjusted their game plan.

Look, I'm not saying Patten is horrible. He's a serviceable veteran who's capable of catching a few footballs. I just don't buy this whole "Patten's our WR2 and this year when he's healthy he's going to kick ass" line of debate.

There's just nothing in his recent game performances or statlines that provide any reason to think that he's going to suddenly become some badass, game breaking WR2. And for that reason, I think we absolutely need to sign someone who *can* provide that kind of threat.

i'm not against signing someone else, but i do think people are to quick to dump on patten. Once he went down, the fact that the change to running more was so drastic should show that he was important.