Ryan Clark

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Originally Posted by jermus22

Nothing against Arch but I don't understand all this talk about a "core group of guys" and then letting Clark go.

Who said that Clark was deemed a "core redskin"? My understanding is that the Skins have determined the 15 guys they feel like they need to keep together to keep continuity. I don't think that Clark could possibly be in that group of 15. I like him, but he isn't M. Washington, or Griff, or Jansen...

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I don't recall Gibbs, Williams, Snyder, Cerrato, or anyone else within the organization stating that the term "core redskins" is restricted to only 15 players on the team. When anyone can find anything supporting that theory, let me know.
As for what Clark wanted, he made it clear in the article mentioned earlier that he wanted to start. And I think he deserves that opportunity considering that he had to beat out Bowen, Stoutmire, Prioleau, and Andre Lott (a year ago) to get his role with the team. It's not like he was a liability or weakness in our secondary.
Someone mentioned that we don't know what his teammates think of him. Well, I do know that Gregg Williams has praised him on several occasions, and both Marcus Washington and Mike Sellers have also had good things to say about him.
I suggest that SOME of you do a little research on Clark before suggesting that he may not be liked by his teammates or that he hasn't stated what he wants. The articles over the past year from the Washington Post have made it abundantly clear where he stands.

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Originally Posted by jermus22

I don't recall Gibbs, Williams, Snyder, Cerrato, or anyone else within the organization stating that the term "core redskins" is restricted to only 15 players on the team. When anyone can find anything supporting that theory, let me know.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15042

"Head coach Joe Gibbs said he had identified his "core group" of 15 players that the team has built its foundation around. He hopes to keep that core group together for the long term."

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15042

"Head coach Joe Gibbs said he had identified his "core group" of 15 players that the team has built its foundation around. He hopes to keep that core group together for the long term."

Thanks for the backup TAFKAS!

[jermus22]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15042

"Head coach Joe Gibbs said he had identified his "core group" of 15 players that the team has built its foundation around. He hopes to keep that core group together for the long term."

My bad, Go Skins. You were right. Thanks for setting me straight on that, Tafkas.

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15042

"Head coach Joe Gibbs said he had identified his "core group" of 15 players that the team has built its foundation around. He hopes to keep that core group together for the long term."

That was not a quote from gibbs it was a quote from the writer. The asterisks where added here not in the article.

This is the quote from Gibbs.



"I told them that with the core group that we have here, our goal now would be to try to keep everybody together. That is my job and I started early this morning."

I think maybe the writer came up with the core of 15 and not Gibbs. If you think about it why would a coach name out 15 players making the others feel like outsiders who could be gone at anytime.

JERMUS22 don't give in until you read it for yourself.

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Originally Posted by firstdown

That was not a quote from gibbs it was a quote from the writer. The asterisks where added here not in the article.

This is the quote from Gibbs.



"I told them that with the core group that we have here, our goal now would be to try to keep everybody together. That is my job and I started early this morning."

I think maybe the writer came up with the core of 15 and not Gibbs. If you think about it why would a coach name out 15 players making the others feel like outsiders who could be gone at anytime.

JERMUS22 don't give in until you read it for yourself.

About 2:25 into his Jan. 16 press conference (available on redskins.com) a reporter says something like "Coach, a couple of years ago you talked about keeping 15 or so core players. Do you feel you've identified those players?" And Gibbs says "Yes, I believe we have"

Anyhow, alls I was trying to do was point out where the original talk of 15 players came from

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

About 2:25 into his Jan. 16 press conference (available on redskins.com) a reporter says something like "Coach, a couple of years ago you talked about keeping 15 or so core players. Do you feel you've identified those players?" And Gibbs says "Yes, I believe we have"

Anyhow, alls I was trying to do was point out where the original talk of 15 players came from

I know I was just giving you a hard time.

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I know I was just giving you a hard time.

Oh I see how it is. You wanna rumble? Let me warn you, I'm dangerous!

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Originally Posted by firstdown

That was not a quote from gibbs it was a quote from the writer. The asterisks where added here not in the article.

This is the quote from Gibbs.



"I told them that with the core group that we have here, our goal now would be to try to keep everybody together. That is my job and I started early this morning."

I think maybe the writer came up with the core of 15 and not Gibbs. If you think about it why would a coach name out 15 players making the others feel like outsiders who could be gone at anytime.

JERMUS22 don't give in until you read it for yourself.

It was Gibbs who came up with the "core of 15 players". It was his idea to use to deal with keeping team chemistry during free agency, not the reporters. Read the article again. The reporter did not pick the number 15 out of the sky.

Anyway, it would be nice to keep more guys together, and that is clearly a goal. I wish Clark would have stayed, but again, he was not one of the 15 and thus was allowed to leave. Also, I don't think that the coaches are going to talk out about who the 15 are. I think people agreed here:
http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...highlight=core