Who starts at QB?

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by NFLeurope

I apologize in advance to anyone this post might annoy or if this momentarily brings back to life...the old ass tired Ramsey-Brunell debate.

I agree with your feelings on Ramsey but I've turned the page on the idea that someday he'd succeed here. Joe Gibbs doesn't like his game. Joe's not a good coaching fit for a young gunslinger who needs patience.

With all the FA signings, I'd like to get very optimistic about the 2006 season but I have serious doubts about our QB situation.

Last year, our passing game was customized for a 35 year-old Mark Brunell who still has the instincts of a scrambler but doesn't have the legs anymore. From the Seattle game through the San Franscisco blowout, Mark and Santana put up some amazing yardage numbers but, after that, their production fell off. At the end, in the weaker part of our schedule, we were very dependent on the running game and defensive turnovers.

At this stage of his career, Brunell's game is very limited and easily defended. Furthermore, Al Saunders' scheme utilizes a pocket passer. Mark doesn't fit the system.

I hope we didn't bring in Al Saunders to adjust his scheme for a 36 year-old ex-scrambler.

Even if the media rumors that Campbell isn't ready are false, how optimistic can we get about the potential of an offense with a QB who has never taken a snap in an NFL game where real bullets were being fired?

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Huddle

I agree with your feelings on Ramsey but I've turned the page on the idea that someday he'd succeed here. Joe Gibbs doesn't like his game. Joe's not a good coaching fit for a young gunslinger who needs patience.

With all the FA signings, I'd like to get very optimistic about the 2006 season but I have serious doubts about our QB situation.

Last year, our passing game was customized for a 35 year-old Mark Brunell who still has the instincts of a scrambler but doesn't have the legs anymore. From the Seattle game through the San Franscisco blowout, Mark and Santana put up some amazing yardage numbers but, after that, their production fell off. At the end, in the weaker part of our schedule, we were very dependent on the running game and defensive turnovers.

At this stage of his career, Brunell's game is very limited and easily defended. Furthermore, Al Saunders' scheme utilizes a pocket passer. Mark doesn't fit the system.

I hope we didn't bring in Al Saunders to adjust his scheme for a 36 year-old ex-scrambler.

Even if the media rumors that Campbell isn't ready are false, how optimistic can we get about the potential of an offense with a QB who has never taken a snap in an NFL game where real bullets were being fired?

hypothetically speaking: ... suppose we keep ramsey ...

If Gibbs opens his mind and let's saunders have equal influence in the decision of whom to start at QB, thus guaranteeing a fair competition then what would be the result?

My conclusion is only that our QB depth chart will be much more attractive w/ Ramsey than without.


(no particular order)
1)Brunell --------------------1) Brunell
2)Campbell ----is less then---2)Ramsey
3)Collins--------------------- 3)Campbell

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

hypothetically speaking: ... suppose we keep ramsey ...

If Gibbs opens his mind and let's saunders have equal influence in the decision of whom to start at QB, thus guaranteeing a fair competition then what would be the result?

My conclusion is only that our QB depth chart will be much more attractive w/ Ramsey than without.


(no particular order)
1)Brunell --------------------1) Brunell
2)Campbell ----is less then---2)Ramsey
3)Collins--------------------- 3)Campbell

I can't imagine paying two million a year to hire an OC and then not giving him the final say on who plays QB in his scheme. Joe Gibbs will have input surely but Saunders will make the call.

However, the Ramsey Bridge was burned before Saunders got here. He doesn't want to play here.

[NAVYSKINSFAN]

Originally Posted by Huddle

I can't imagine paying two million a year to hire an OC and then not giving him the final say on who plays QB in his scheme. Joe Gibbs will have input surely but Saunders will make the call.

However, the Ramsey Bridge was burned before Saunders got here. He doesn't want to play here.

Joe Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. He may LET Saunders make the call. But Gibbs has the power.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by joel.bailey

Joe Gibbs is a Hall of Fame coach. He may LET Saunders make the call. But Gibbs has the power.

Obviously. But don't you think this was decided when they met for 12 hours at Al Saunders' home before Al took the job?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by joel.bailey

But Gibbs has the power.

No disrepect or anything but I started remembering some of the old 80's cartoons after I read this.

Like He-Man: " I - HAVE - THE - POWER" of greyskull or something like that.
And Thunder Cats: "THunder, THUNder, THUNDER CATS - HOOOOEEE"

[Paintrain]

I still think we should pursue the Ramsey for Abraham & the Jets 1st round pick.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I still think we should pursue the Ramsey for Abraham & the Jets 1st round pick.

Wait, you guys are talkng like this whole "Ramsey's gone" thing is not just a giant hoax. Seriously, you think Patrick is gone? Really? No!?!

Dammit, what are the chances of getting Tim Hasselback back? How 'bout just getting back his hottie of a wife?

[PWNED]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

No disrepect or anything but I started remembering some of the old 80's cartoons after I read this.

Like He-Man: " I - HAVE - THE - POWER" of greyskull or something like that.
And Thunder Cats: "THunder, THUNder, THUNDER CATS - HOOOOEEE"

actually i think cheetarah was the thundercats HO.