Who starts at QB?

[JET]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ugh, no offense man and my rant isn't directed at you specifically, but when can we finally drop this debate??

Ramsey is on his way out, his time here is done. He wasn't drafted by Gibbs, and Gibbs obviously doesn't think as highly of Ramsey as some of his fanboys do. Why do we have to keep rehashing this every other day?

The real benefit to Ramsey leaving is that Matty won't have to rant about this anymore. It'll make things much easier on the Gibbs fanboys.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JET

The real benefit to Ramsey leaving is that Matty won't have to rant about this anymore. It'll make things much easier on the Gibbs fanboys.

Did you just get pwned Matty?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JET

The real benefit to Ramsey leaving is that Matty won't have to rant about this anymore. It'll make things much easier on the Gibbs fanboys.

Hell yeah I'm an unapologetic fanboy of Gibbs, but you know 3 Super Bowl wins will do that to you.

What I don't understand is what Ramsey has done to have earned such a fanboy following.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What I don't understand is what Ramsey has done to have earned such a fanboy following.

WORD.

My theory is that everyone thinks he's a nice guy, and a hard worker, and a likeable kid. And after what Spurrier put him through, and how he kept fighting, he earned admiration from fans. So he's an emotional favorite for people, they root for him to do well because it would make them feel good.

That and I bet that anyone who has been spurned by management in their lives (laid off, passed over for promotion, etc) despite their hard work and dedication probably identifies with Ramsey.

Oh well he's gone. I'm over it. 10-6, and looking for more.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

WORD.

My theory is that everyone thinks he's a nice guy, and a hard worker, and a likeable kid. And after what Spurrier put him through, and how he kept fighting, he earned admiration from fans. So he's an emotional favorite for people, they root for him to do well because it would make them feel good.

That and I bet that anyone who has been spurned by management in their lives (laid off, passed over for promotion, etc) despite their hard work and dedication probably identifies with Ramsey.

Oh well he's gone. I'm over it. 10-6, and looking for more.

Just to elaborate, I'm a fan of Ramsey myself because of those reasons you mentioned, but, setting the emotional part of it aside, I want what's best for this football team. And if the powers that be think Ramsey isn't the answer at QB for us, so be it.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just to elaborate, I'm a fan of Ramsey myself because of those reasons you mentioned, but, setting the emotional part of it aside, I want what's best for this football team. And if the powers that be think Ramsey isn't the answer at QB for us, so be it.

That's me in a nutshell too. The emotional side of me wants to see him go on and do well elsewhere. But the fan in me wants to see wins, and the fan in me agrees with Gibbs' decision: we're better off with Brunell now and Campbell as our future.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just to elaborate, I'm a fan of Ramsey myself because of those reasons you mentioned, but, setting the emotional part of it aside, I want what's best for this football team. And if the powers that be think Ramsey isn't the answer at QB for us, so be it.

I really wanted Ramsey to do well here. I'm not going to say he let me down per se, but when he was annointed the team's starter last spring I thought he'd come out guns blazing come training camp/preseason time and put so much distance between him and brunell/campbell there would be no debate. And yet, I didn't feel like I saw a QB who was any better than that last game against Minnesota. Meanwhile Brunell got healthy and fought hard to claim his job back.

I still think it was a mistake of Gibbs to name Ramsey the starter but it was also a mistake on Ramsey's part not to claim that title on the field last summer and leave no doubt in anyone's mind that he should be the guy.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I really wanted Ramsey to do well here. I'm not going to say he let me down per se, but when he was annointed the team's starter last spring I thought he'd come out guns blazing come training camp/preseason time and put so much distance between him and brunell/campbell there would be no debate. And yet, I didn't feel like I saw a QB who was any better than that last game against Minnesota. Meanwhile Brunell got healthy and fought hard to claim his job back.

I still think it was a mistake of Gibbs to name Ramsey the starter but it was also a mistake on Ramsey's part not to claim that title on the field last summer and leave no doubt in anyone's mind that he should be the guy.

A-friggin-men.

Ramsey had plenty of chances. Don't forget that when Brunell first got here, Gibbs declared the 2004 preseason to be open competition for the two QBs. Ramsey did nothing but stink it up, and in the process gave every reason for Gibbs to doubt him.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

A-friggin-men.

Ramsey had plenty of chances. Don't forget that when Brunell first got here, Gibbs declared the 2004 preseason to be open competition for the two QBs. Ramsey did nothing but stink it up, and in the process gave every reason for Gibbs to doubt him.

Reminder: Patrick didn't "stink it up." Joe Gibbs declared Patrick his starter after watching both perform in 2004.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

WORD.

My theory is that everyone thinks he's a nice guy, and a hard worker, and a likeable kid. And after what Spurrier put him through, and how he kept fighting, he earned admiration from fans. So he's an emotional favorite for people, they root for him to do well because it would make them feel good.

That and I bet that anyone who has been spurned by management in their lives (laid off, passed over for promotion, etc) despite their hard work and dedication probably identifies with Ramsey.

Oh well he's gone. I'm over it. 10-6, and looking for more.

I agree. But don't feel bad for him, he's making millions while we're only making half of what he does (well, only I am I guess). He will sign on with someone else and at least sign a new contract to make a few more million and even if he is a bust, he has some good starting out money to find something else to do in his early to middle 30's. Wait, now this is starting to depress me - can I get a fanclub, I am being treated unfairly at work too and I work damn hard. ... maybe Peyton Manning can start it ?