Abraham for Ramsey/picks still possible?

[MTK]

Last word was Abraham was looking for a monster bonus, in the $16M - $18M range. I think that's too high even for Snyder's taste.

I think Carter solved our DE issue and a deal for Abraham isn't likely anymore.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Last word was Abraham was looking for a monster bonus, in the $16M - $18M range. I think that's too high even for Snyder's taste.

I think Carter solved our DE issue and a deal for Abraham isn't likely anymore.

Agreed. Plus I think it's quite possible nobody will trade anything for Ramsey at this point. Teams with QB needs are pretty much satisfied with their signings at this point. The Jets have mild interest to add him as insurance for Pennington, but if they're the only team with interest they have no reason to rush into trading any picks. They can just wait us out until we need his cap room and release him.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agreed. Plus I think it's quite possible nobody will trade anything for Ramsey at this point. Teams with QB needs are pretty much satisfied with their signings at this point. The Jets have mild interest to add him as insurance for Pennington, but if they're the only team with interest they have no reason to rush into trading any picks. They can just wait us out until we need his cap room and release him.

The more I think about the Ramsey situation, the more I think that since the redskins have had him this long, the redskins would gain more leverage the more they wait in trying to trade him. At this point, the market for him is ice cold and has the worst trade value from this point on. The way I look at it, it couldn't get worse, only better. There are some advantages to waiting: qb is a need position, which compared to other positions is the most critical. If another team would lose a starter or highly dependable 2nd stringer, it would increase his value. The chances of someone losing a qb due to injury is pretty good. They could, at the very least, keep ramsey until they signed their higher draft choice(s). That way they could reserve that cap space and roster spot for the rookie(s).

The disadvantages for the redskins would be- taking up a roster spot if they keep him after they sign their rookies. And the draft may hurt his value a little with an influx of rookie qbs hitting the nfl - the impact would be minimal because hopefully teams would view any rookie qb differently from Ramsey in at least experience (which I would expect to count a lot) and they would view them in different roles to fill on the team (because of experience).

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The more I think about the Ramsey situation, the more I think that since the redskins have had him this long, the redskins would gain more leverage the more they wait in trying to trade him. At this point, the market for him is ice cold and has the worst trade value from this point on. The way I look at it, it couldn't get worse, only better. There are some advantages to waiting: qb is a need position, which compared to other positions is the most critical. If another team would lose a starter or highly dependable 2nd stringer, it would increase his value. The chances of someone losing a qb due to injury is pretty good. They could, at the very least, keep ramsey until they signed their higher draft choice(s). That way they could reserve that cap space and roster spot for the rookie(s).

The disadvantages for the redskins would be- taking up a roster spot if they keep him after they sign their rookies. And the draft may hurt his value a little with an influx of rookie qbs hitting the nfl - the impact would be minimal because hopefully teams would view any rookie qb differently from Ramsey in at least experience (which I would expect to count a lot) and they would view them in different roles to fill on the team (because of experience).

yeah, if we hold on to him like we did Gardner last year, there might be a qb injury that makes a team step up w/a higher draft pick. I don't know if cap-wise that's feasible, but I agree, at this point nobody's gonna give us anything.