Who starts at QB?

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Yeah - Silly us just looking at Brunnell's 23 TD and 11 Int's last season.

If you are impressed by that stat and can ignore that we were forced to rely almost completely on the running game late in the season because Mark's very limited game was easily defensed by our opponent's over the second half of the season, then I certainly wouldn't deny you your bliss.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Huddle

If you are impressed by that stat and can ignore that we were forced to rely almost completely on the running game late in the season because Mark's very limited game was easily defensed by our opponent's over the second half of the season, then I certainly wouldn't deny you your bliss.

I think the slump we all saw during the last few games of '06 were a combination of things. I believe first and foremost that it was due to the injury of Randy Thomas. Clinton Portis was nicked up too. Then, you had a gameplan that basically had two receiving options -- Moss and Cooley. At some point, you had to figure that tougher, playoff bound defenses were bound to exploit those weaknesses. And yes, Mark Brunell on the whole seemed to slightly burn out.

Ideally, Jason Campbell has to really light it up for the upcoming preseason. He'll make it a whole lot easier on all of us if he simply takes charge, and shows the coaching staff that there's no reason not to start him.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I think the slump we all saw during the last few games of '06 were a combination of things. I believe first and foremost that it was due to the injury of Randy Thomas. Clinton Portis was nicked up too. Then, you had a gameplan that basically had two receiving options -- Moss and Cooley. At some point, you had to figure that tougher, playoff bound defenses were bound to exploit those weaknesses. And yes, Mark Brunell on the whole seemed to slightly burn out.

Ideally, Jason Campbell has to really light it up for the upcoming preseason. He'll make it a whole lot easier on all of us if he simply takes charge, and shows the coaching staff that there's no reason not to start him.

Except for the Tampa Bay game, the slump in the passing game began after the San Francisco game and it was certainly not all Mark Brunell's fault. However, his penchant for flushing quickly from the pocket to roll left and throw short made it easy on the defenders. Mark did that in Jacksonville for years but back then he was a real threat to run the football.

I agree that Jason Campbell is the key to our fortunes next season. He's going to have a better system and more weapons to work with than Big Ben has at Pittsburgh. If he's the real deal, he has to start.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Huddle

If you are impressed by that stat and can ignore that we were forced to rely almost completely on the running game late in the season because Mark's very limited game was easily defensed by our opponent's over the second half of the season, then I certainly wouldn't deny you your bliss.

First - That's a damn good stat no matter how you cut it. Ramsey in 3 years never approached those ratios. Would he have in last year's offense? We'll never know but my bet is no. I loved the guy and was pulling for him hard. But the light just never seemed to go on and stay on. For every beautiful throw and good decision there was always one or two that just made you say - "WTF were you thinking??"

Second - I don't disagree that Brunnell had his issues and that it appeared he was pretty easily defensed later in the year. How much of that was Mark, how much was it that his first deep option was constantly doubled and tripled and his second deep option consisted of Taylor "What do you want me to do, Fight to get open??" Jacobs and Jimmy "Arena League, Here I come!" Farris?

Ramsey's a good kid and truthfully I would love to have him as our back-up this year. But for all concerned that is just not likely. I wish him well, we should get what we can and send him someplace where he has a chance to start. Personally, I would love to see him go to and succeed in Oakland.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

First - That's a damn good stat no matter how you cut it. Ramsey in 3 years never approached those ratios. Would he have in last year's offense? We'll never know but my bet is no. I loved the guy and was pulling for him hard. But the light just never seemed to go on and stay on. For every beautiful throw and good decision there was always one or two that just made you say - "WTF were you thinking??"

Second - I don't disagree that Brunnell had his issues and that it appeared he was pretty easily defensed later in the year. How much of that was Mark, how much was it that his first deep option was constantly doubled and tripled and his second deep option consisted of Taylor "What do you want me to do, Fight to get open??" Jacobs and Jimmy "Arena League, Here I come!" Farris?

Ramsey's a good kid and truthfully I would love to have him as our back-up this year. But for all concerned that is just not likely. I wish him well, we should get what we can and send him someplace where he has a chance to start. Personally, I would love to see him go to and succeed in Oakland.

Except that I think he'd give us the best combination of talent and experience to run this year's offense, I agree completely with your post.