2 possible db's in draft

[dmek25]

im trying to translate phillips ability to play in the nfl.he was a good college corner,but at his size,and speed i dont have high hopes for him at the next level

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im trying to translate phillips ability to play in the nfl.he was a good college corner,but at his size,and speed i dont have high hopes for him at the next level

5-11+ and 190lbs? What's wrong with that size? Do I really need to list all of the pro bowl caliber CBs who are that same size or smaller? More less the CBs that are having very solid careers in the NFL with less size?

I'm not saying Phillips will be a pro bowler, because I don't believe he ever will, but to say that he can't cut it in the NFL because he's too small at 5-11/190 just doesn't make sense. We're not talking about taking him in the first round with a top 15 selection.......we're talking about the potential of adding him as a #3/nickel CB with a late 2nd round pick.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

5-11+ and 190lbs? What's wrong with that size? Do I really need to list all of the pro bowl caliber CBs who are that same size or smaller? More less the CBs that are having very solid careers in the NFL with less size?

I'm not saying Phillips will be a pro bowler, because I don't believe he ever will, but to say that he can't cut it in the NFL because he's too small at 5-11/190 just doesn't make sense. We're not talking about taking him in the first round with a top 15 selection.......we're talking about the potential of adding him as a #3/nickel CB with a late 2nd round pick.

wouldn't you rather get someone at that spot that had more upside than just a #3 though?

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by That Guy

wouldn't you rather get someone at that spot that had more upside than just a #3 though?

Sure, if one is available. Personally, however, I don't think any of the CBs that will be available that late in the second round have the ability to be immediate #2 CBs. I do think that Phillips has the upside to be a #2 in a couple years, as well as a number of other CBs. My point was only that we need a #3 CB right now, and that we can get that #3 CB in the draft (whether it be Phillips or someone else). Hopefully they can grow into a #2 in a few years, but for right now, we can't expect to find a solid #2 that late in the draft. Getting Fred Smoot when we did was the exception to the rule (and even he wasn't a late 2nd rounder).

[That Guy]

i don't think phillips could really ever be a good #2. maybe a decent one...

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i don't think phillips could really ever be a good #2. maybe a decent one...

I guess only time will tell.

[dmek25]

the 4.6 speed is what bothers me,maybe he can play safety

[dmek25]

how about looking into a free agent corner?

[JBartell05]

We should take Demeco Ryans or Ernie Simms with our second round pick. What number is it anyways?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by JBartell05

We should take Demeco Ryans or Ernie Simms with our second round pick. What number is it anyways?

53 overall, and i think both of those guys will be long gone by then.

simms may be the 2nd or 3rd LB off (before pick 20 in the first) and ryans probably goes late first or early second, at least 8-10 picks before our turn.

[JBartell05]

Ok, what about Bobby Carpentar, or the guy from UTEP or the guy from Miami (williamson???)

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by JBartell05

Ok, what about Bobby Carpentar, or the guy from UTEP or the guy from Miami (williamson???)

carpenter is a 1st rounder too. leon williams is a 5th rounder, and McIntosh is a 3rd rouner (both from miami).

thomas howard would be the best pick if he's still there and the 6 above him are gone (which they should be). D'Qwell might fall, but i'm not sure he'll fall far enough for us to take him.