Brunell vs. Bledsoe

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JoeRedskin

First: You're wrong. He did not add further claims to his original statement. He made statements which support and provide a basis for the original claim.

He made a claim. The burden of proof is his to prove that claim. Did what you are generously labelling "supporting statements" prove anything? No. They were just additional unsupported claims.

Given your stance on the use of "mostly useless" statistics to "prove" a point, your earlier invitation for him to prove his statement relying on statistics is disengenous at best.

Why disingenuous? He thinks he can prove something with stats not me.

He has made a claim: Brooks is the best QB. He then supports it by asserting that Brooks excels at those things that good QB's need to do. Simply b/c he did not support his assertion in the manner you have asked him to does not mean he hasn't offered support.

Let him support it anyway he wants to. I don't care. But I'm asking for him to prove his claim not for additional unsupported claims.

Can you disprove any of his supporting assertions and, thus, call into question his final conclusion?

I don't have to. It's his claim not mine.

What must he provide as a basis for support of his claim? Accepting your theory that stats are mostly useless, any use of stats will inevitably fail.

His proof is his problem. Yes, it obvious to me that he'll fail but I can't help it if the facts aren't on his side.

The circular nature of your argument is truly amazing: You assert stats are mostly useless for providing a comparison of players. Then assert someone has not proven their point b/c they have not relied on stats to compare the player to others.

Strawman. Quote please. Where did I make that assertion?

IF, instead, it is your position that, as he is arguing that stats are important and valuable comparisons, he must provide a statistical basis for his position re: Aaron Brooks, THEN you have failed to grasp the point of the statement or are deliberately failing to answer it.

Maybe I wrote something that has given you the wrong impression. Where did you get the idea that I'm making statistical proof of his claim a requirement? I don't care how he proves his claim.