PFC Assessment

backrow · 06-22-2004, 01:30 PM

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Big C · 06-22-2004, 01:36 PM

what is PFC

Dave Butz Baby! · 06-22-2004, 01:40 PM

I think backrow means this....

http://www.profootballcentral.com/previews/redskins.htm

Redskins_P · 06-22-2004, 02:33 PM

That's crazy. This thing says that Portis rushed for more yards than the whole backfield for the Skins last year. On top of that he did it with less carries. Most likely under Gibbs he'll get more carries, so just think about how many yards he can run for this year.

cpayne5 · 06-22-2004, 02:45 PM

He averaged nearly 5.5 yds per carry. If he had gotten 371 carries (as did our backfield), he would have been on pace for >2000 yds. If he has the same kind of average, I can see him getting 2k yds. I hope 500 of those is against dallas alone.

skinsfanthru&thru · 06-22-2004, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskins_P

That's crazy. This thing says that Portis rushed for more yards than the whole backfield for the Skins last year. On top of that he did it with less carries. Most likely under Gibbs he'll get more carries, so just think about how many yards he can run for this year.

i too am hoping that Portis can top last year but don't forget that denver's o-line is infamous for using a lot of not so clean techniques.

MTK · 06-22-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

i too am hoping that Portis can top last year but don't forget that denver's o-line is infamous for using a lot of not so clean techniques.

true but we also can't forget that Joe Bugel is one of the top offensive line coaches in the history of the game. And with guys like Samuels, Jansen and Thomas he has a pretty good core to work with.

:headbange

Redskins_P · 06-22-2004, 03:27 PM

Portis will break some franchise records. I don't know if it will happen this year, but eventually he will. If he can average 25 - 30 carries a game and 5.5 yards......he can rush for over 2500 yards.

diehardskin2982 · 06-22-2004, 03:58 PM

I just hope everyone stays healthy especially Portis, becuase in my opinion we have the over all strongest team in the NFC

Big C · 06-22-2004, 04:49 PM

haha i like your thinking diehardskin

MTK · 06-22-2004, 04:54 PM

I don't know about 2500 yards, that would be an incredible season no doubt.

I'm not sure if Portis is durable enough for that kind of season, or more importantly, if Gibbs would pound him that much. I'm looking at numbers like 290 carries, 1500 yards, 12-15 TD's from Portis.

Big C · 06-22-2004, 05:44 PM

that sounds more reasonable mattyk

skinsfanthru&thru · 06-22-2004, 07:21 PM

anyone know how many 20+yard carries Portis has had the last 2 years? cuz the line in denver helped break him loose and when he was in open field no one was catching up. I'm so glad the skins have Bugel coaching the o-line again as well as a system that doesn't revolve around calling audibles every play.

Daseal · 06-22-2004, 09:04 PM

Bugel was one of the best O line coaches... 20 years ago. Honestly, until I see the staff prove something, I'm not going to jump on to the OUR WOES ARE SOLVED train. They have a lot of experience and talent, both of which were lacking last year, and they tarnished my buddies reputation! However, I want to see if they can do it again. I hope so!

I think Portis stays under 2000 yards and has a lower YPC than last year. I think he'll still be solid though. Here's to hoping I'm wrong!

Dave Butz Baby! · 06-22-2004, 09:41 PM

I recently read that we will be taking advantage of a rule buried deep in the book from the early years of football, where there is a little known loophole from the 1920's called the "2-9 Switcheroo".

For the entire game, the rule allows a team to play just two players on either offense or defense (must be determined before the coin flip) and use the nine positions that would have been on that side of the ball to play on the other side. So if a team decides to employ this tactic and only use 2 players on offense, they are then entitled to use the remaining nine positions on defense, for a total of 20 defenders on the field. Against a traditionally setup team, you could imagine the pro and cons of doing this.

Gibbs (being the smart guy that he is) is hoping to use this rule to his advantage, but he needs to get the right player to fill the roll on the offensive side of the ball. Portis is obviously on the field in this setup.

He needs that offensive player that can snap the ball to himself, hand the ball off to Portis, counter-trey out and leg whip the right side of the D-Line, give a forearm shiver to the outside 'backer (strong and weak side mentality goes out the window), and lay waste to the corner. Everyone else defensively will be in pursuit from the other side, but it'll be too late. Think that safety will catch him? Puh-leeze.

Portis. Around the corner. Into the sunset with a trail of dust, he'll be off to pay dirt.

3500 Yards, 41 TDs. No problem.

Who's the player?

Duh....

Ditka!

I can see it now... Washington Redskins, 114. Dallas Cowboys, -12.

06-22-2004, 01:30 PM	#1
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	PFC Assessment Grade: A- Source __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship! Last edited by backrow; 06-22-2004 at 01:33 PM. Reason: I can't seem to copy the link!

06-22-2004, 01:40 PM	#3
Dave Butz Baby! Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reston, VA Age: 54 Posts: 450	I think backrow means this.... http://www.profootballcentral.com/previews/redskins.htm __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

06-22-2004, 02:45 PM	#5
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	He averaged nearly 5.5 yds per carry. If he had gotten 371 carries (as did our backfield), he would have been on pace for >2000 yds. If he has the same kind of average, I can see him getting 2k yds. I hope 500 of those is against dallas alone. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

06-22-2004, 09:41 PM	#15
Dave Butz Baby! Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reston, VA Age: 54 Posts: 450	I recently read that we will be taking advantage of a rule buried deep in the book from the early years of football, where there is a little known loophole from the 1920's called the "2-9 Switcheroo". For the entire game, the rule allows a team to play just two players on either offense or defense (must be determined before the coin flip) and use the nine positions that would have been on that side of the ball to play on the other side. So if a team decides to employ this tactic and only use 2 players on offense, they are then entitled to use the remaining nine positions on defense, for a total of 20 defenders on the field. Against a traditionally setup team, you could imagine the pro and cons of doing this. Gibbs (being the smart guy that he is) is hoping to use this rule to his advantage, but he needs to get the right player to fill the roll on the offensive side of the ball. Portis is obviously on the field in this setup. He needs that offensive player that can snap the ball to himself, hand the ball off to Portis, counter-trey out and leg whip the right side of the D-Line, give a forearm shiver to the outside 'backer (strong and weak side mentality goes out the window), and lay waste to the corner. Everyone else defensively will be in pursuit from the other side, but it'll be too late. Think that safety will catch him? Puh-leeze. Portis. Around the corner. Into the sunset with a trail of dust, he'll be off to pay dirt. 3500 Yards, 41 TDs. No problem. Who's the player? Duh.... Ditka! I can see it now... Washington Redskins, 114. Dallas Cowboys, -12. __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

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06-22-2004, 01:36 PM	#2
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	what is PFC

06-22-2004, 02:33 PM	#4
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	That's crazy. This thing says that Portis rushed for more yards than the whole backfield for the Skins last year. On top of that he did it with less carries. Most likely under Gibbs he'll get more carries, so just think about how many yards he can run for this year.

06-22-2004, 03:27 PM	#8
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Portis will break some franchise records. I don't know if it will happen this year, but eventually he will. If he can average 25 - 30 carries a game and 5.5 yards......he can rush for over 2500 yards.

06-22-2004, 03:58 PM	#9
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	I just hope everyone stays healthy especially Portis, becuase in my opinion we have the over all strongest team in the NFC

06-22-2004, 04:49 PM	#10
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	haha i like your thinking diehardskin

06-22-2004, 04:54 PM	#11
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	I don't know about 2500 yards, that would be an incredible season no doubt. I'm not sure if Portis is durable enough for that kind of season, or more importantly, if Gibbs would pound him that much. I'm looking at numbers like 290 carries, 1500 yards, 12-15 TD's from Portis.

06-22-2004, 05:44 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	that sounds more reasonable mattyk

06-22-2004, 07:21 PM	#13
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	anyone know how many 20+yard carries Portis has had the last 2 years? cuz the line in denver helped break him loose and when he was in open field no one was catching up. I'm so glad the skins have Bugel coaching the o-line again as well as a system that doesn't revolve around calling audibles every play.

06-22-2004, 09:04 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Bugel was one of the best O line coaches... 20 years ago. Honestly, until I see the staff prove something, I'm not going to jump on to the OUR WOES ARE SOLVED train. They have a lot of experience and talent, both of which were lacking last year, and they tarnished my buddies reputation! However, I want to see if they can do it again. I hope so! I think Portis stays under 2000 yards and has a lower YPC than last year. I think he'll still be solid though. Here's to hoping I'm wrong!

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