The Passion of Christ

cpayne5 · 03-03-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

There simply is no justification for attacking Iraq. None. Zero. The reasons we were given ... WMDs, al Qaeda link, possible 9/11 connection, attempts to obtain nuclear material ... were all proven false in time.

David Kay (who's report I'm assuming you're going by) doesn't seem to think so.

Transcript of an interview with David Kay on the Today Show, being interviewed by Matt Lauer. This interview came after the report.

Lauer: "Is it true that in 2000 and 2001 Saddam was pushing his nuclear progarm?"

Kay: "Yes, he was pushing hard for nuclear and long range missiles. Look, it's clear the man had the intent. He simply wasn't successful."

"He clearly lied to UN and was in material breach."

In a key moment in the interview, Lauer asked: "Based on everything you now know, was it prudent to go to war against Saddam?"

Kay: "It was absolutely prudent to go to war. The system was collapsing, Iraq was a country with desire to develop WMDs, and it was attracting terrorists like flies to honey."

Lauer: "Are your earlier comments being exploited for political reasons?"

"Inevitably yes, but what we have is a national security issue that shouldn't be exploited as a political issue."

Lauer: "Should we continue to search for WMDs as VP Cheney has suggested?

Kay: "Absolutely."

cpayne5 · 03-03-2004, 04:38 PM

The story I was referring to is the one in which Jesus becomes angry, storms into the synagogue, turns over tables, cracks a whip, and forced people to leave. Sounds kinda like the war on terrorism. People (terrorists) made us mad, we got mad, go after them, turn over their tables (bomb weapons factories, etc), and then disperse the enemy combatants (take them into custody). If one of those priests had stood up to Jesus, he surely would have dealt with him, in the same manner we are dealing with UBL and his gang.

backrow · 03-04-2004, 10:45 AM

The priests did stand up, albiet, later! They conferred, schemed, and had Jesus arrested! Not just for over-turning the money changers, it was to protect their form of religion! They had a cash cow, and didn't want to lose it! They would sell a sacrificial lamb, or bird several times over!

Add to that, Judas betrayal of his Master/Teacher.
Add to that the fact that neither the Pharisees or the Herodians were in charge!
Add to that, Pilate, however he reacted! Or as the kids say, "Whatever!"
Add to that, the crowd, chanting Hosannah! one week, and Crucify him! the next week!
Add to that, the abandonment by Jesus' disciples!
All fomented and aided by Satan and his lies!

Then, our Lord willingly sacrificed himself to take away our curse of sin! He literally became cursed!

He died, arose the third day, and was seen by his disciples. He also was able to allay some of their misgivings about his ministry during that very personal time between the resurection and his ascention into heaven. He further commisioned his disciples to wait & receive power, his same Spirit.
That power enables the believer to witness about Jesus love, grace, mercy, life, and peace, and divine health.

The entire New Testament was a testament (witness) of his love and teachings!

His soon return will unite the world under one Lord!
His Kingdom will reign forever, just as he has dominion over all of creation, because, after all, he is the creator!

The Passion of The Christ could have easily touched on more than just his cruel death. It could have been much more!

As the Bumper sticker states: Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven!
And I stand Forgiven, on Christ, the Rock!
And I pray for all of you to come into a real, and personnal relationship with Christ also!

Ghost · 03-05-2004, 03:57 PM

Thanks for clearing that up.

Darock · 04-01-2004, 03:34 PM

I thought it was a great movie...I saw another movie depicting the same situation in "passion" on tv the other night..It was pretty pathetic...Though, I did notice that caesar in the tv movie was the one that told the jews "to bring jesus to him, and he would eliminate him." In Passion, caesar tries to help, but the jews don't hear it and refuse to have nothing else happen except the crucify...

03-03-2004, 04:38 PM	#2
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	The story I was referring to is the one in which Jesus becomes angry, storms into the synagogue, turns over tables, cracks a whip, and forced people to leave. Sounds kinda like the war on terrorism. People (terrorists) made us mad, we got mad, go after them, turn over their tables (bomb weapons factories, etc), and then disperse the enemy combatants (take them into custody). If one of those priests had stood up to Jesus, he surely would have dealt with him, in the same manner we are dealing with UBL and his gang. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

03-04-2004, 10:45 AM	#3
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 74 Posts: 1,812	The Priests Did! The priests did stand up, albiet, later! They conferred, schemed, and had Jesus arrested! Not just for over-turning the money changers, it was to protect their form of religion! They had a cash cow, and didn't want to lose it! They would sell a sacrificial lamb, or bird several times over! Add to that, Judas betrayal of his Master/Teacher. Add to that the fact that neither the Pharisees or the Herodians were in charge! Add to that, Pilate, however he reacted! Or as the kids say, "Whatever!" Add to that, the crowd, chanting Hosannah! one week, and Crucify him! the next week! Add to that, the abandonment by Jesus' disciples! All fomented and aided by Satan and his lies! Then, our Lord willingly sacrificed himself to take away our curse of sin! He literally became cursed! He died, arose the third day, and was seen by his disciples. He also was able to allay some of their misgivings about his ministry during that very personal time between the resurection and his ascention into heaven. He further commisioned his disciples to wait & receive power, his same Spirit. That power enables the believer to witness about Jesus love, grace, mercy, life, and peace, and divine health. The entire New Testament was a testament (witness) of his love and teachings! His soon return will unite the world under one Lord! His Kingdom will reign forever, just as he has dominion over all of creation, because, after all, he is the creator! The Passion of The Christ could have easily touched on more than just his cruel death. It could have been much more! As the Bumper sticker states: Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven! And I stand Forgiven, on Christ, the Rock! And I pray for all of you to come into a real, and personnal relationship with Christ also! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

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03-05-2004, 03:57 PM	#4
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	Thanks for clearing that up.

04-01-2004, 03:34 PM	#5
Darock Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 31	I thought it was a great movie...I saw another movie depicting the same situation in "passion" on tv the other night..It was pretty pathetic...Though, I did notice that caesar in the tv movie was the one that told the jews "to bring jesus to him, and he would eliminate him." In Passion, caesar tries to help, but the jews don't hear it and refuse to have nothing else happen except the crucify...

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