Handcuffed by a Dumbass

[Pocket$ $traight]

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

Since you went and threw in the term idiotic, I assume it's open season with the verbage up in here now. Your post is downright stupid.

Point number 1 - you could get killed in a car wreck on your way to 7-11. Yes you could. But you're a lot more likely to get hurt on an ATV than you are on a car. That's why medical insurance premiums for motorbikes are higher than for cars.

Point number 2 - I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't do. I never said there was anything contractually preventing Rabach from riding an ATV. There's nothing illegal about it. I respect that it's his decision to make. All I'm doing is criticizing him for making a poor decision. He can choose what he wants to do, but guess what, I'm free to judge him on his decisions if I want to.

Point number 3 - Football players get paid to risk paralysis every time they suit up. If they didn't suit up and risk the paralysis, they wouldn't earn the millions of dollars. If they don't hop on an ATV, they don't risk paralysis, AND they keep their million dollar salary.

Yes I'm going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV. By doing so he's jeopardizing his ability to play football in the future, which is precisely what allows him to earn millions per year.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Since you went and threw in the term idiotic, I assume it's open season with the verbage up in here now. Your post is downright stupid.

Point number 1 - you could get killed in a car wreck on your way to 7-11. Yes you could. But you're a lot more likely to get hurt on an ATV than you are on a car. That's why medical insurance premiums for motorbikes are higher than for cars.

Point number 2 - I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't do. I never said there was anything contractually preventing Rabach from riding an ATV. There's nothing illegal about it. I respect that it's his decision to make. All I'm doing is criticizing him for making a poor decision. He can choose what he wants to do, but guess what, I'm free to judge him on his decisions if I want to.

Point number 3 - Football players get paid to risk paralysis every time they suit up. If they didn't suit up and risk the paralysis, they wouldn't earn the millions of dollars. If they don't hop on an ATV, they don't risk paralysis, AND they keep their million dollar salary.

Yes I'm going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV. By doing so he's jeopardizing his ability to play football in the future, which is precisely what allows him to earn millions per year.

Keep trying to tell everyone how they should live their life, Hillary...

As long as he doesn't get burned on a stunt I couldn't care less.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Keep trying to tell everyone how they should live their life, Hillary...

As long as he doesn't get burned on a stunt I couldn't care less.

Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do. I don't get what's so hard to understand here. I just think it's stupid.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do. I don't get what's so hard to understand here. I just think it's stupid.

Is the point of being flithy freaking rich??? F that, if I had that kinda money I would be doing bungee jumps off Anacostia bring. You seriously cant expect someone to conform to what you think is "smart". The guy was having fun, and there are plently of things that are more dangerous than ATVs, and that pt has been made, yet you ignore it. I am sure anyone at thewarpath, would ride on ATVs if they were on Skins. Now if your a lil scaredy cat and you dnt want to ride ATVs, then thats ok, thats your personal opinion of what is "smart". People get hurt all the time for alot of other things. Does that make them stupid as well(for playing bball, swiming, playing with their kids, etc???). Oh no during the offseason all players should just be put into a lil box, and feed with a tube. That should solve the problem, or better yet why dont we have the players stay at Skins park 24/7!! That would solve the problem entirely, just take away their life. This argument has more crap in it then the DonJohn across the street.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Is the point of being flithy freaking rich??? F that, if I had that kinda money I would be doing bungee jumps off Anacostia bring. You seriously cant expect someone to conform to what you think is "smart". The guy was having fun, and there are plently of things that are more dangerous than ATVs, and that pt has been made, yet you ignore it. I am sure anyone at thewarpath, would ride on ATVs if they were on Skins. Now if your a lil scaredy cat and you dnt want to ride ATVs, then thats ok, thats your personal opinion of what is "smart". People get hurt all the time for alot of other things. Does that make them stupid as well(for playing bball, swiming, playing with their kids, etc???). Oh no during the offseason all players should just be put into a lil box, and feed with a tube. That should solve the problem, or better yet why dont we have the players stay at Skins park 24/7!! That would solve the problem entirely, just take away their life. This argument has more crap in it then the DonJohn across the street.

If you're a football player and you do something even more dangerous than ride ATVs, then that is even more stupid. But that doesn't mean riding ATVs is a good idea. It's not about being too scared to ride one, or macho enough to ride one, or any of that stupid sh*t. It's about doing what's in your own best interests.

Playing basketball, playing with your kids, and swimming are not as dangerous as riding an ATV. Unless you don't know how to swim, in which case it would be STUPID to try without taking lessons first.

You take the argument to the extreme. It's as if risk is an all or nothing thing with you, black vs white. Saying they need to live in a bubble takes my argument WAY too far. Quite simply put, some things are more risky than others, and riding ATVs is one of them. And an NFL player can choose LOTS of other ways to live his life than pick something as risky as riding ATVs.

The real pertinent point here is how the hell did Rabach get the cut on his leg? If he was an experienced ATV rider, you'd think he'd know how to take precautions against these things. You'd think he could be careful. As CPayne said, he's ridden tons of motorbikes and ATVs and never had a problem. Well, let's for a second assume that Rabach is as experienced as CPayne. If that's the case, then maybe a temporary lapse in judgment caused his accident. And when you're making a million dollars a year that could go up in smoke if you get hurt, why in the hell would you partake in any activity in which a lapse in judgment could result in the loss of all that money?? How can you be sure you won't have a lapse in judgment at the wrong time. It's human nature, we're prone to making mistakes. It would be an extremely costly mistake to make in Casey Rabach's situation. Now let's for a second assume the other possibility, that Rabach was being careless on the ATV, and simply ignoring precautions. That's just plain stupid no matter how you cut it.

I think at this point I'm willing to let the argument die. All I can do is repeat myself, because every time I check this thread someone new chimes in with the same lame points that others have already made.

All I hear from you people is "don't tell people how to live their lives" or "you could get hurt doing anything". That's so devoid of logic and reasoning it makes me feel dumber just by reading it. It comes down to one thing, FUN. People choose to ride the ATVs because it's fun, and that's what Rabach did.

Some people choose to have sex without a condom with a girl they don't know very well. Why? BECAUSE IT'S FUN. They know it's not smart, but they have a lapse in judgment and do it anyway. I'm not perfect, I do the same things. The difference here is I don't whine when my friends smack me around and call me an idiot for doing it.

Rabach made a dumb decision to ride the ATV. I'm done with the discussion.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If you're a football player and you do something even more dangerous than ride ATVs, then that is even more stupid. But that doesn't mean riding ATVs is a good idea. It's not about being too scared to ride one, or macho enough to ride one, or any of that stupid sh*t. It's about doing what's in your own best interests.

Playing basketball, playing with your kids, and swimming are not as dangerous as riding an ATV. Unless you don't know how to swim, in which case it would be STUPID to try without taking lessons first.

You take the argument to the extreme. It's as if risk is an all or nothing thing with you, black vs white. Saying they need to live in a bubble takes my argument WAY too far. Quite simply put, some things are more risky than others, and riding ATVs is one of them. And an NFL player can choose LOTS of other ways to live his life than pick something as risky as riding ATVs.

The real pertinent point here is how the hell did Rabach get the cut on his leg? If he was an experienced ATV rider, you'd think he'd know how to take precautions against these things. You'd think he could be careful. As CPayne said, he's ridden tons of motorbikes and ATVs and never had a problem. Well, let's for a second assume that Rabach is as experienced as CPayne. If that's the case, then maybe a temporary lapse in judgment caused his accident. And when you're making a million dollars a year that could go up in smoke if you get hurt, why in the hell would you partake in any activity in which a lapse in judgment could result in the loss of all that money?? How can you be sure you won't have a lapse in judgment at the wrong time. It's human nature, we're prone to making mistakes. It would be an extremely costly mistake to make in Casey Rabach's situation. Now let's for a second assume the other possibility, that Rabach was being careless on the ATV, and simply ignoring precautions. That's just plain stupid no matter how you cut it.

I think at this point I'm willing to let the argument die. All I can do is repeat myself, because every time I check this thread someone new chimes in with the same lame points that others have already made.

All I hear from you people is "don't tell people how to live their lives" or "you could get hurt doing anything". That's so devoid of logic and reasoning it makes me feel dumber just by reading it. It comes down to one thing, FUN. People choose to ride the ATVs because it's fun, and that's what Rabach did.

Some people choose to have sex without a condom with a girl they don't know very well. Why? BECAUSE IT'S FUN. They know it's not smart, but they have a lapse in judgment and do it anyway. I'm not perfect, I do the same things. The difference here is I don't whine when my friends smack me around and call me an idiot for doing it.

Rabach made a dumb decision to ride the ATV. I'm done with the discussion.

The real story is that Rabach injured his leg because he was having unprotected sex with some random girl while riding the ATV. He got upset when she called him Cory Raymer and they both flipped over.