F... gas prices

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Seriously.

You'd THINK we would have developed an alternate fuel source by now, but NOOO. Thank the oil companies for lobbying against THAT.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Seriously.

You'd THINK we would have developed an alternate fuel source by now, but NOOO. Thank the oil companies for lobbying against THAT.

It's not really the oil companies. It is the car companies. Oil companies know they'll be able sell whatever fuel we need for our cars with minimal investment. Car companies on the other hand will need to spend billions in R&D to make full lines of viable alt fuel vehicles.

Along the same line we all need to give ourselves a big fat
F...US
for not demanding more alt fuel vehicles. If there was demand from us then the car companies would do it. What a total CF this whole situation has become.

[BDBohnzie]

i have a ford taurus that gets roughly 18-20 miles/gallon mixed driving. I commute 350 miles round trip per week, combine that with all the other driving, and we're talking 500 miles a week is fairly average.

As I am a big guy, I really don't want a commuter car because they are too small, yet I can't afford one of the newer hybrids. So call me screwed...

[MTK]

F SUV drivers too, especially hummers

Why do people feel the need to drive tanks?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

F SUV drivers too, especially hummers

Why do people feel the need to drive tanks?

I second that. That's ONE of the reasons gas prices stay as high as they are. More need = higher prices. Simple formula.

Drive more fuel efficient cars, less gas is used, prices go down. That would be a start anyway. But I agree (to a point) to also send out an F...Us for ALWAYS wanting the beast SUV to drive one person around in.

And Matty, those are on my list right below girls who drive Jettas. That is girls at college who's daddies bought them enormous monsters of cars that they can hang their leis and and talk on cell phones causing accidents.

Hollaback girl. Woot woot.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I second that. That's ONE of the reasons gas prices stay as high as they are. More need = higher prices. Simple formula.

Drive more fuel efficient cars, less gas is used, prices go down. That would be a start anyway. But I agree (to a point) to also send out an F...Us for ALWAYS wanting the beast SUV to drive one person around in.

And Matty, those are on my list right below girls who drive Jettas. That is girls at college who's daddies bought them enormous monsters of cars that they can hang their leis and and talk on cell phones causing accidents.

Hollaback girl. Woot woot.

SUVs represent an incremental increase in demand that is a pittance in comparison to the increasing oil demand from India and China. It's a drop in the bucket and is maybe responsible for moving gas prices from $2.58 to $2.59. SUVs are not the problem with oil prices.

But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

SUVs represent an incremental increase in demand that is a pittance in comparison to the increasing oil demand from India and China. It's a drop in the bucket and is maybe responsible for moving gas prices from $2.58 to $2.59. SUVs are not the problem with oil prices.

But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.

Then tell the Indians and Chinese to stop driving SUVs. They're too short to drive them anyway.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Then tell the Indians and Chinese to stop driving SUVs. They're too short to drive them anyway.

LOL

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

But I will say F SUVs in general because I think they're so unsafe. If I get in an accident with a Hummer, and I'm driving around in my Toyota Camry, I'm not standing much of a chance. Plus SUVs love to roll over. They're just bad news in general.

lol, first ATVs, now SUVs. You should come take a peek in my garage. It's filled with all kinds of stuff you don't like.

As far as gas prices go, I don't really mind them; and I drive 120 miles a day.

[Schneed10]

Uh oh, this thread is going political.

Hybrids are not the answer. They typically cost on average $4000 more than the comparable non-hybrid model. The savings on gas doesn't offset the increase in price.

Blaming the oil companies is like shooting the messenger. The price of oil as a commodity has gone up because of stronger demand from China and India's economies, which are growing like wildfire. Middle east tensions between the Iraq war and the tension with Iran are also causing oil prices to rise. There's no conspiracy occurring between the big oil firms to price gauge the consumers, it's quite simply a matter of supply and demand when it comes to oil.

Alternative energy sources are the real answer. You have to reduce America's demand for oil in order to insulate the American consumers from oil prices.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I hate chickenheads.

[Warpath]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I hate chickenheads.

goodstuff.

[saden1]

Gas jumped from $2.20 p/g to $2.80 p/g in three weeks here in the Seattle area! I hope the bastards die a slow painful death.

[MTK]

Supply and demand is such an easy cop-out, we all know there are many layers to any issue and big oil is certainly no different. Is supply and demand a part of the big picture? Sure. Is it the end all explanation? No way.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Supply and demand is such an easy cop-out, we all know there are many layers to any issue and big oil is certainly no different. Is supply and demand a part of the big picture? Sure. Is it the end all explanation? No way.

Supply and Demand is definitely the all-encompassing argument and is the biggest driver. But it's important to look at what's driving the increases in demand. A big part of it is developing markets (China and India) ramping up their manufacturing and using more oil. On the supply side, supply is dropping because of conflicts in Iraq and tensions with Tehran. Here's where you can get political, and I'm not going to jump into the fray in a political argument, but Bush's excursion into Iraq is definitely not helping gas prices. Whether or not we're justified in being there, that's another story and again I'm not going there.

But Matty, those are the two biggest factors at play here. What else is it? Are you accusing big oil of price gouging? Because if so, I hope you have some numbers to back that up.