What move would you have not made if you were GM?

ST21 · 04-13-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sociofan

Damn ST. Why go there? What does Arch being white have to do with anything? The guy is a banger even if he has lead hands. He'll be in the SS position, so his job is more run support than looking for that glider hanging out there for the taking. He's white. Get over it.

maybe.....but hell I would had rather went after Ed Reed, he's unhappy in Balitmore and we could had traded a second round and next year future for a real star......Plus Arch is a liability in the passing game.........and he's ok but trust me.....he's no Ed Reed.....

Sociofan · 04-13-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ST21

maybe.....but hell I would had rather went after Ed Reed, he's unhappy in Balitmore and we could had traded a second round and next year future for a real star......Plus Arch is a liability in the passing game.........and he's ok but trust me.....he's no Ed Reed.....

If I were a GM and thought I could get Reed, I'd take him over Arch as well...but not because he's black

. Personally, I think Reed might be the best strong safety in the league right now. He and Taylor in the same backfield would force teams to forget about the slot position, carry 12 tight ends, and mash every downfield pass to within 5 yards of the sideline. THAT would be worth seeing.

heybigstar · 04-17-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ST21

maybe.....but hell I would had rather went after Ed Reed, he's unhappy in Balitmore and we could had traded a second round and next year future for a real star......Plus Arch is a liability in the passing game.........and he's ok but trust me.....he's no Ed Reed.....

Ozzie Newsome denied Ray Lewis quest in 2005 and this year when he asked to be traded. What makes you think he would trade Ed Reed?

Also, where did you hear that Ed Reed was unhappy?

memphisskin · 04-19-2006, 09:57 AM

I'm shocked that folks really believe that Randle El or Lloyd has peaked. I mentioned this somewhere else, but don't believe the hype on Randle El's #s. Put it like this, he's 27 and has played in a "run the ball and play defense" system his entire career. I know we want the Skins to sign Pro Bowlers and stars, but after the way Santana played last year is there any reason to doubt Lloyd and Randle El before they've even put on pads?

As for Archuleta, his low interceptions are probably due to him playing at the line of scrimmage so much. I've got him making the 2nd biggest impact, only because if Carter can give us some push off the edge then our linebackers will become even more effective.

Paintrain · 04-15-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sociofan

Damn ST. Why go there? What does Arch being white have to do with anything? The guy is a banger even if he has lead hands. He'll be in the SS position, so his job is more run support than looking for that glider hanging out there for the taking. He's white. Get over it.

ST21 doesn't care about white people. {Kanye West looks on awkwardly}

Ok, seriously.. I think Archuleta was a want signing moreso than a need signing. Hopefully the fact that he is playing more near the line will limit his lack of range and coverage skills. To the old-schoolers out there, remember, GW defense is patterned after the '85 Bears 4-6 defense. Gary Fencick was their 'Archuleta' and dude was a beast but he was not great in coverage. He played primarily near the line, blitzing the QB and blowing up RB out of the backfield.

Love the Lloyd and Randle-El moves, excited about the Carter move. 2 moves I wish we had made, David Thornton and Ryan Longwell.

GoSkins! · 04-13-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ST21

I believe john lynch is the last of the good white safteys in the league......

I hope you didn't mean that like you wrote it. He may be the only good white saftey in the NFL now, but you can be sure there will be more.

ST21 · 04-14-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I hope you didn't mean that like you wrote it. He may be the only good white saftey in the NFL now, but you can be sure there will be more.

im sure it will.......

Master4Caster · 04-15-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ST21

Adam A., all we need is a overrated SS, he has a career high 3 ints, and not because he's feared,...just no hands and I believe john lynch is the last of the good white safteys in the league......i would rather traded for a # of safteys in the league, than pay him the richest contract for a Saftey in History..........

Hey ST, you are on to something. As you know

Chinese guys can't play basketball
Black guys can't play golf or be pocket quarterbacks
White guys can't jump or play safety

Let's just hire people for the positions we "know" they are good at and keep every other group out!

And why should the Redskins pay the richest contracts in the league for players and assistant coaches? Lets just have the owner of the most valuable most profitable franchise in all of sports pocket the change for himself. Money is what the Redskins have. We have an owner who uses it to our advantage.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-17-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ST21

Adam A., all we need is a overrated SS, he has a career high 3 ints, and not because he's feared,...just no hands and I believe john lynch is the last of the good white safteys in the league......i would rather traded for a # of safteys in the league, than pay him the richest contract for a Saftey in History..........

Wow! Don't cry racism when people are saying that Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league. Was there any need for that?

That Guy · 04-17-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

...Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league...

oh, he went there...

EXoffender · 04-17-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Wow! Don't cry racism when people are saying that Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league. Was there any need for that?

Vick is overrated. And just because I'm black doesn't qualify me to confirm this. We should've traded for Ed Reed for that kind of money.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-17-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

Vick is overrated. And just because I'm black doesn't qualify me to confirm this. We should've traded for Ed Reed for that kind of money.

I am not sure who is the most overrated player. The jury is still out on Vick. When he gets more receivers, we'll see how good he is at throwing the ball.
To be honest, I don't really care since he's not in Burgundy and Gold.

I just think the comments about AA being white were irrelevant and out of line. Just as a Rush Limbaugh statement about McNabb would equally be out of line and plain dumb.

Master4Caster · 04-13-2006, 08:31 PM

I have no quarrel with any of this year's moves. If I were GM, I would have tried a lot harder to keep Antonio Pierce on our roster last year.

htownskinfan · 04-13-2006, 08:42 PM

I like all the moves even though we overpaid,but if i was the gm I would have signed Vinaterri in the mix somewhere and 1 less reciever

JankySpanky80 · 04-13-2006, 09:56 PM

we all need to step back and give arch a chance before we start bashing him

View Poll Results: Of our major moves, which one would you have not made if it was your call?
Randle El	29	17.79%
Archuleta	40	24.54%
Carter	5	3.07%
Lloyd	22	13.50%
All of the above	1	0.61%
None of the above	66	40.49%
Voters: 163. You may not vote on this poll

04-19-2006, 09:57 AM	#4
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 54 Posts: 960	Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM? I'm shocked that folks really believe that Randle El or Lloyd has peaked. I mentioned this somewhere else, but don't believe the hype on Randle El's #s. Put it like this, he's 27 and has played in a "run the ball and play defense" system his entire career. I know we want the Skins to sign Pro Bowlers and stars, but after the way Santana played last year is there any reason to doubt Lloyd and Randle El before they've even put on pads? As for Archuleta, his low interceptions are probably due to him playing at the line of scrimmage so much. I've got him making the 2nd biggest impact, only because if Carter can give us some push off the edge then our linebackers will become even more effective.

04-13-2006, 08:31 PM	#13
Master4Caster Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DC area Posts: 374	Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM? I have no quarrel with any of this year's moves. If I were GM, I would have tried a lot harder to keep Antonio Pierce on our roster last year. __________________ Master4Caster http://runningredskins.blogspot.com http://mvn.com/nfl-redskins

04-13-2006, 08:42 PM	#14
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 64 Posts: 4,935	Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM? I like all the moves even though we overpaid,but if i was the gm I would have signed Vinaterri in the mix somewhere and 1 less reciever

04-13-2006, 09:56 PM	#15
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM? we all need to step back and give arch a chance before we start bashing him

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