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Old 04-29-2006, 11:04 PM   #1
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

why do people not understand how moving up in the draft works. We didtn give up two first round picks for Campbell, and we didnt give up two 2nd round picks for Rocky. We gave up a 2nd round pick next year to essentially move up a round this year, or up a great number of picks. We still got a 2nd round pick.

It is a high pick to give up, I agree. But if its what we need to win it all this year, or go farther in the playoffs then its worth it. If hes a bust, and we dotn do well this year, then we'll wish we had it. But id rather put my self in a better position to win this year when we're so close
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:13 PM   #2
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

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why do people not understand how moving up in the draft works. We didtn give up two first round picks for Campbell, and we didnt give up two 2nd round picks for Rocky. We gave up a 2nd round pick next year to essentially move up a round this year, or up a great number of picks. We still got a 2nd round pick.

It is a high pick to give up, I agree. But if its what we need to win it all this year, or go farther in the playoffs then its worth it. If hes a bust, and we dotn do well this year, then we'll wish we had it. But id rather put my self in a better position to win this year when we're so close
so then who has the 53rd pick in the draft this year?

just so you don't have to go to redskins.com or anywhere else i did for you...


To obtain McIntosh, the Redskins traded the 53rd pick in the second round of this year's draft, the 189th pick in the sixth round of this year's draft and a second-round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:23 PM   #3
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

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so then who has the 53rd pick in the draft this year?

just so you don't have to go to redskins.com or anywhere else i did for you...


To obtain McIntosh, the Redskins traded the 53rd pick in the second round of this year's draft, the 189th pick in the sixth round of this year's draft and a second-round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft.
and they got a 2nd rounder in return. so we had a net loss one 1 2007 2nd round pick and 1 2006 6th round pick. that's what SnC is saying. trade 3 for 1 = -2.
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Old 04-30-2006, 09:43 AM   #4
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

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why do people not understand how moving up in the draft works. We didtn give up two first round picks for Campbell, and we didnt give up two 2nd round picks for Rocky. We gave up a 2nd round pick next year to essentially move up a round this year, or up a great number of picks. We still got a 2nd round pick.

It is a high pick to give up, I agree. But if its what we need to win it all this year, or go farther in the playoffs then its worth it. If hes a bust, and we dotn do well this year, then we'll wish we had it. But id rather put my self in a better position to win this year when we're so close
Yes, we did.

The fact of the matter is that before we selected Rocky we had 2 - 2nd round picks and a 6th round pick. After we selected him we had none of those picks, therefore, logic dictates that that is the price we paid for him.

By your reasoning, if we waited and selected him with the 53rd pick than we would have got him for free. No, we would have paid a 2nd round pick for him.
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Old 04-30-2006, 10:06 AM   #5
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Yes, we did.

The fact of the matter is that before we selected Rocky we had 2 - 2nd round picks and a 6th round pick. After we selected him we had none of those picks, therefore, logic dictates that that is the price we paid for him.

By your reasoning, if we waited and selected him with the 53rd pick than we would have got him for free. No, we would have paid a 2nd round pick for him.
But after trading the #53 pick, we still had a 2nd round pick. We lost two picks for trading up to the #35 spot -- the second rounder next year, and the middle 6th rounder this year.

Your reasoning makes it sound as if we lost the #53 pick and got nothing in return. This is not the case.
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But after trading the #53 pick, we still had a 2nd round pick. We lost two picks for trading up to the #35 spot -- the second rounder next year, and the middle 6th rounder this year.

Your reasoning makes it sound as if we lost the #53 pick and got nothing in return. This is not the case.
No, it doesn't. We got Rocky McIntosh in return.

You guys are explaining what it took to move up, I'm explaining what we paid for McIntosh.

If we would have picked a player at #53 we would have paid a 2nd round pick for that player! Nothing in this world is for free.

We owned 3 less draft picks after we selected RM than we did before we selected him. It is that simple.
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No, it doesn't. We got Rocky McIntosh in return.

You guys are explaining what it took to move up, I'm explaining what we paid for McIntosh.

If we would have picked a player at #53 we would have paid a 2nd round pick for that player! Nothing in this world is for free.

We owned 3 less draft picks after we selected RM than we did before we selected him. It is that simple.
Goofball, Rocky McIntosh IS our 2nd round pick.

We sacrificed next year's 2nd rounder and this year's 6th rounder to GET INTO POSITION to get him. That was the price we paid.
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

I think you guys are getting into semantics as to Rocky's price. I don't see what all the fuss is about, we used 2 2nds and a 6th to get him. It could be a great move, or it could be a bad move. For now I'll give the staff the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:11 PM   #9
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Re: Skins officially pick Rocky McIntosh

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Yes, we did.

The fact of the matter is that before we selected Rocky we had 2 - 2nd round picks and a 6th round pick. After we selected him we had none of those picks, therefore, logic dictates that that is the price we paid for him.

By your reasoning, if we waited and selected him with the 53rd pick than we would have got him for free. No, we would have paid a 2nd round pick for him.
your logic is stupid. "after we selected him we had none of those picks"

well no shit...but we have him now. Thats how it works, after you pick a player in the draft, you no longer have that pick. We gave up ONE second round pick to get him, and its a 2nd for next year which is the equivalent to a third this year.
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:17 PM   #10
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your logic is stupid. "after we selected him we had none of those picks"

well no shit...but we have him now. Thats how it works, after you pick a player in the draft, you no longer have that pick. We gave up ONE second round pick to get him, and its a 2nd for next year which is the equivalent to a third this year.
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:21 PM   #11
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There, there 'Canes.
heh, sorry. Im still pissed we didnt make a move for Harris. I would have been happy if we took him at 53 orignally because I thought Rocky would be gone by that pick.
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