And the idiot of the year award goes to............

[Dirtbag59]

By the way, someone please explain to me how you use the #1 pick on a Defensive End who had 11 sacks in 2 years?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

By the way, someone please explain to me how you use the #1 pick on a Defensive End who had 11 sacks in 2 years?

cause they drafted him on potential and his freakish altheticism instead of his production. I'm not saying that's right or wrong.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by That Guy

cause they drafted him on potential and his freakish altheticism instead of his production. I'm not saying that's right or wrong.

With all due respect (and I'm not sure if thats your view or the right answer, I know its at least the latter) I'll take a football player over a gym rat anyday.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by That Guy

cause they drafted him on potential and his freakish altheticism instead of his production. I'm not saying that's right or wrong.

I don't agree with taking Super Mario, if it is based on JUST potential and altheticism. In my eyes, if you are drafting at #1, the player should have (in this order): proven skills/success, work ethic, production, athleticism, and potential.

I don't think you have a true #1 overall pick unless you have all of the above.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Really? I thought thats when they'd start to break down since week 8-10 is nearing the end of the collegiate season.

they do wear out, but they also stop making as many stupid mistakes.

[D'BOYZ]

OK I agree Mario may turn out to be a great fit to Texans if he doesn't turn out to be a bust there are many games againts bad teams he didn't do squad. But for the pure economics and return of investment Bush was the right choice. Right now NO season tickes are going out fast and then you have jersey tshirt etc... coem on Texas would have recover the 6 maybe 7 million they had to over pay Bush in a month.

And NO made the right move not only for the bussines aspect but because Deuce just came back from major surgery they don't know if he will be 100%.

And for the 1 that said taht moves like this is why Great players like Witten fall to the second he fell to the Third round and we love that pick.

for me the more stupid moves came from the Bills they not only reached once (Whitner, Donte) but twice (McCargo, John) with players that should had gone so high. but I thank them because that let us pick Carpenter

And NO tried to fiend suitable trade partner before selecting bush but they say none offered anything worth the value.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

OK I agree Mario may turn out to be a great fit to Texans if he doesn't turn out to be a bust there are many games againts bad teams he didn't do squad. But for the pure economics and return of investment Bush was the right choice. Right now NO season tickes are going out fast and then you have jersey tshirt etc... coem on Texas would have recover the 6 maybe 7 million they had to over pay Bush in a month.

And NO made the right move not only for the bussines aspect but because Deuce just came back from major surgery they don't know if he will be 100%.

And for the 1 that said taht moves like this is why Great players like Witten fall to the second he fell to the Third round and we love that pick.

for me the more stupid moves came from the Bills they not only reached once (Whitner, Donte) but twice (McCargo, John) with players that should had gone so high. but I thank them because that let us pick Carpenter

And NO tried to fiend suitable trade partner before selecting bush but they say none offered anything worth the value.

Hey D'Boyz, don't you also love the fact that Dallas passed on Stephen Jackson and took Julius Jones instead?

I know I do!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Hey D'Boyz, don't you also love the fact that Dallas passed on Stephen Jackson and took Julius Jones instead?

I know I do!

BURN!

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Hey D'Boyz, don't you also love the fact that Dallas passed on Stephen Jackson and took Julius Jones instead?

I know I do!

How that's a Burn really Julius has done more than Jackson in less games?? yeah he has been injured but he has 3 times the potential Jackson barelly made 1000 last year in 15 games

JJ almost did it in 13 and he wasn't 100% in 4 games he played, we also passed on K. Jones that draft was that a bad move also.

And sorry but JJ, Spears ( 1st round pick we got from Buffalo), and Bledsoe released because of J.P Losman ( the pick Buffalo took with our pick). is 10,000 better than just S. Jackson.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

How that's a Burn really Julius has done more than Jackson in less games?? yeah he has been injured but he has 3 times the potential Jackson barelly made 1000 last year in 15 games

JJ almost did it in 13 and he wasn't 100% in 4 games he played, we also passed on K. Jones that draft was that a bad move also.

And sorry but JJ, Spears ( 1st round pick we got from Buffalo), and Bledsoe released because of J.P Losman ( the pick Buffalo took with our pick). is 10,000 better than just S. Jackson.

Umm... looking at NFL.com Jackson and Jones compare:

Jackson - 1046 yards rushing (254 carries) 8 TD's; 320 yards receiving (43 catches) 2 TD's

Jones - 993 yards rushing (257 carries) 5 TD's; 218 yards receiving (35 catches) 0TD's

It looks to me like Jackson was a bit more productive with less touches and is secured as the feature back this year.

[Daseal]

D'BOYZ, I dont see Bush as so much a money issue as a salary cap issue. From what I know about the Texans owner, hes far from cheap, but hey, there's a salary cap. I'd rather have Williams and another good player than just Reggie Bush.

[Carnage]

anybody notice that williams only got 19.5 sacks in 3 seasons? In the ACC?

[PWNED]

you gotta say though, the ACC is a high powered conference.

[That Guy]

the thing about casserly is that he always knows exactly what to do.... two years after the fact

falcons + vick = 25,000 more season tickets sold. I can't think of a single defensive lineman that generates that kind of economic impact (and that's not including jerseys and caps and such). As for team needs, even though bush is a better player, they do have his spots covered fairly well (two #1 WRs, PB KR, good #1 RB, though a bit fragile).

anyways, for player stats:
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/mainpage.jsp

get them right from the source, you'll get better results (go to team reports on the right). Its throwing up an error clicking on individual players right now though hopefully it fixed soon.

[htownskinfan]

I think you did blow it on this one,even though I'm not high on casserly,this was kubiaks pick and charley went with it,charley said on the radio here that since he's been a gm he's never had a disagreement with a coach who their #1 pick would be,he made it sound like he pretty much picks who the coach wants for the first pick,after that there might be some disagreements on other players,he's pretty much blamed capers for the picks he's made that didnt turn out because thats who capers wanted,so even though I dont think he's an idiot for the williams pick because i dont think it was his call,his other picks and freeagent moves{philip buchanon}have sucked.he did have some good moves for the skins,I give him credit for that,but being close to the situation in houston has left me very unimpressed,now I'm starting to think that dirtbag,maybe you are right,maybe he is the idiot of the year,lol