2006 Post Draft Signings - Spencer Havner - ILB - extensive profile

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by Big C

id like mccune to be gone personally. lots of ppl on here have fallen in love with him, but i see him as nothing more than a special teams player (which we just got several in the draft). hes a 27 year old 2nd year player

He was a workout warrior. Fast and strong. Football smarts, questionable.

[inwaterby8]

Originally Posted by EXoffender

He was a workout warrior. Fast and strong. Football smarts, questionable.

Physically, he's a beast. I personally like that he's 27 yrs old. He more mature, understands his role, has military experience, etc.

I'd love to see him get a legitimate shot at ILB this preseason, or even at weakside. Lamar Marshall isn't quite getting it done... Sure he's got the tackles, but that is because everyone runs right to his part of the field.

As far as football smarts go - all I can say is he ran a pretty tough defense from a pretty tough position in a pretty tough conference. He deserves a shot. Not to mention he's one of the highest drafted linebackers we have, even as a fifth (?) round choice.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by inwaterby8

Physically, he's a beast. I personally like that he's 27 yrs old. He more mature, understands his role, has military experience, etc.

I'd love to see him get a legitimate shot at ILB this preseason, or even at weakside. Lamar Marshall isn't quite getting it done... Sure he's got the tackles, but that is because everyone runs right to his part of the field.

As far as football smarts go - all I can say is he ran a pretty tough defense from a pretty tough position in a pretty tough conference. He deserves a shot. Not to mention he's one of the highest drafted linebackers we have, even as a fifth (?) round choice.

lemar isn't getting it done? turning it over to a complete unknown with little NFL experience with no questions asked? sorry, but i think that's insane.

[inwaterby8]

Originally Posted by That Guy

lemar isn't getting it done? turning it over to a complete unknown with little NFL experience with no questions asked? sorry, but i think that's insane.

Lemme see... Lemar was unknown, but was never and will never be as strong or fast, nor did he have as good a college career. He only starts because another once unknown (AP #58) who was almost as fast, but not as strong, and definately didn't have the college career of McCune turned out to be a great leader in G Will's schemes.

You think a 27 year old Military vet may be able to lead his classmates of '04?

Lastly, I didn't suggest turning over the reigns, I said I'd like to see him get a legitimate shot at the job.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by inwaterby8

Lemme see... Lemar was unknown, but was never and will never be as strong or fast, nor did he have as good a college career. He only starts because another once unknown (AP #58) who was almost as fast, but not as strong, and definately didn't have the college career of McCune turned out to be a great leader in G Will's schemes.

You think a 27 year old Military vet may be able to lead his classmates of '04?

Lastly, I didn't suggest turning over the reigns, I said I'd like to see him get a legitimate shot at the job.

uh, lemar started FOURTEEN games due to injury (and filled in well) before getting a starting nod the next year. he was good enough in practice that the staff felt he could be trusted (they saw him breaking down film with pierce well beyond what other players were doing). all last year holdman (who blatantly sucked) was used more than any other reserve, meaning they showed nothing in practice to merit playing time.

i have NO idea why you think being a military vet means anything as far as talent or field awareness. this is the NFL, not college. speed means jack if you're out of position r misread the play.