H-back Position Disappearing ?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

[dirthogs311]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

Well thats not fair, he was injured, and I'm sure Gibbs did not want to take a chance with Pat Ramsey

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by dirthogs311

Well thats not fair, he was injured, and I'm sure Gibbs did not want to take a chance with Pat Ramsey

Sure it's not fair, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I think he should have taken himself out of the game if he knew he was going to play like that.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Sure it's not fair, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I think he should have taken himself out of the game if he knew he was going to play like that.

Part of being a good quarterback is the desire to always be the man no matter what happens. That doesn't mean not being a team player. It means that if it was your decision to play or not, you play. Every snap. It's on the coaching staff to replace him if they didn't believe he was ready to go. Gibbs played him (presumably for offensive continuity and game management), and that's good enough for me.

I'd be far more worried about Brunell if he had pulled himself at the end of the year than I would be if he played through it poorly.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

I say that if Randy didn't get hurt we would be there. Our run offense struggled and Brunell wouldn't have gotten hurt had there been Randy on the line. Thomas is a beast and its arguable that he is the best player on this offense, though we have Moss, Lloyd, Samuels, Cooley, and CP. Man we are going to be so fucking good next year.

[Daseal]

Saunders and Gibbs branch from the same tree, so chances are the differences we see won't be too huge. I predict a bit more inspired playcalling, increased Portis and Cooley production. I wonder what our WRs will do this year, Saunders WRs never really did a whole lot.

As far as the Brunell issue goes. Im sure we can all agree when he's healthy hes a decent QB in the league. Good enough to manage games, not exactly someone I want to force to win a game (MNF Week 2 is the only one I can remember) but once Brunell gets a little nicked up he plays AWFUL, and nothing changes. That Tampa Bay playoff game made me vomit.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Daseal

That Tampa Bay playoff game made me vomit.

Yeah me too - it wasn't so much that I accidently swallowed it though . Maybe because they still won the game.

Originally Posted by Daseal

I wonder what our WRs will do this year, Saunders WRs never really did a whole lot.

Yup, I was wondering the same thing.

[steveo395]

http://www.redskins.com/team/default.jsp?sortBy=title

The h-back position has been gone. I don't know if any of you noticed that on their roster page , but it has said TE and FB for a while. The system is not going to change that much though....and cooley is a TE

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, Thomas had a LOT to do with it. He's diesel. I don't think any of us can deny though that Thomas or not, Brunell's throws were not even close in many situations.

That being said, I don't want to take ANY credit away from the year he had last year. He was one of the single reasons we played as well as we did (and one of the reasons we lost to Seattle).

[scowan]

Let's get back to this H-back position dissappearing.... All you are talking about to me is trying to create mis-matches. You can line Cooley up as a FB to block or run little playaction flat passes, a TE to run short routes and in the slot to run more intermediate routes. He had to learn 2-3 positions. This year he may be more of a TE and just have life simplified. I guess I keep thinking about Tony Gonzales and the way he is used. I think Cooley will be able to focus more on catching the ball and not blocking from the FB position and we will go back to having more legit FBs who just block and catch passes from the back field.

[That Guy]

saunders has never had a WR like santana... he tried 18,000 different ways to turn dante's speed into production and it never worked. It'll probably be a bit more spread than last year (where it was moss, cooley, throw it away).

this change happened months ago btw.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by That Guy

this change happened months ago btw.

When did they announce it ?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

When did they announce it ?

When Saunders was brought in it was in the middle of several HC openings. He turned down the Oakland job in favor of this job. Gibbs stated in no uncertain terms that he was assuming a more mangerial function seeing as how is President of football OPS and HC. He said Saunders would have complete control of the offense and based on the fact that Saunders turned down a HC job I'd say he was quite sure he indeed would. Saunders is the offense now. Gibbs may say "hey what do you think of this?" but Saunders is the man with the plan.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

When Saunders was brought in it was in the middle of several HC openings. He turned down the Oakland job in favor of this job. Gibbs stated in no uncertain terms that he was assuming a more mangerial function seeing as how is President of football OPS and HC. He said Saunders would have complete control of the offense and based on the fact that Saunders turned down a HC job I'd say he was quite sure he indeed would. Saunders is the offense now. Gibbs may say "hey what do you think of this?" but Saunders is the man with the plan.

I don't think it was very clear what was said of the duties and responsibilities. I don't think they had a clear and defined understanding themselves when he was first hired.

To me, the h-back position disappearing cleared this up for me.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

And I'm perfectly fine with that. Just remember, number one offense in the league with KANSAS CITY'S skill position players. They had Gonzo and Holmes. That's IT.