Arrington Video on ESPN.com

[PorterHouse]

If he really wanted to be "one of joes guys" then why did he do everything he could do to leave? he is a whinnin lil girl, which sucks cause can play the hell out of some linebacker. I give him this much though he did stick around this long, I mean how many defensive coordinators and systems did he have to learn? But it still doesnt look good for him or the organization to go on t.v. and make an ass out of himself. Another thing didnt he look like he put on a lot of weight? Is he tryin out for nose guard?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by PorterHouse

If he really wanted to be "one of joes guys" then why did he do everything he could do to leave? he is a whinnin lil girl, which sucks cause can play the hell out of some linebacker. I give him this much though he did stick around this long, I mean how many defensive coordinators and systems did he have to learn? But it still doesnt look good for him or the organization to go on t.v. and make an ass out of himself. Another thing didnt he look like he put on a lot of weight? Is he tryin out for nose guard?

It always sounds like I am sticking up for the dude, but anyway. He has actually lost weight, like 15 to 20 lbs. he is closing the his playing weight of his first two or three seasons. As far as staying here, he worked his contract, however he wanted that contract to stay in tact no matter if the CBA was signed. Most or all of the players that re- worked the deals, their contracts were voided after the new CBA was signed. He wanted his to stay no matter what. Which the two sides couldn't come to an agreement on. So he bought is FA status. You can argue that either way, fact is he is gone lets move on and stop the LaVar threads. How about another thread on Ramsey and Brunell? oh, thats right he's gone too!! hmmm, how about who is better Taylor or Williams, that should be a good discussion.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

How about another thread on Ramsey and Brunell? oh, thats right he's gone too!! hmmm, how about who is better Taylor or Williams, that should be a good discussion.

That's an excellent question! Do you think Ramsey will be the starter this year?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by mheisig

That's an excellent question! Do you think Ramsey will be the starter this year?

I would like to say yes, but I doubt it. From what I hear Chad P. still going to be the man. which sucks. But the coach says its a wide open competition, so atleast he has a shot.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I would like to say yes, but I doubt it. From what I hear Chad P. still going to be the man. which sucks. But the coach says its a wide open competition, so atleast he has a shot.

Chad Pennington SEEMS SHOT. If he comes back from that shoulder injury, he should win hands down the comeback-of-the-year award.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

It always sounds like I am sticking up for the dude, but anyway. He has actually lost weight, like 15 to 20 lbs. he is closing the his playing weight of his first two or three seasons. As far as staying here, he worked his contract, however he wanted that contract to stay in tact no matter if the CBA was signed. Most or all of the players that re- worked the deals, their contracts were voided after the new CBA was signed. He wanted his to stay no matter what. Which the two sides couldn't come to an agreement on. So he bought is FA status. You can argue that either way, fact is he is gone lets move on and stop the LaVar threads. How about another thread on Ramsey and Brunell? oh, thats right he's gone too!! hmmm, how about who is better Taylor or Williams, that should be a good discussion.

No, I actually don't think you're sticking up for LaVar too much. In fact, you're probably not "sticking up" for him at all. There are two sides to every coin. It's a little easier to call out LaVar because he's been the most vocal about everything.

While I do think LaVar talks too much, he probably had his reasons. What get's me is that all of a sudden (and there are some who will argue that he's been such all along) he's a freelancer that's usually out of position and that can't pick-up defenses. I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. If you want to talk out of position, see Warrick Holdman. But then again, he's not getting paid millions either.

I guess I'm rambling on a bit, but the point I was really trying to make is, I tend to agree with you. Under similiar circumstances, who wouldn't be a little pissed and hurt for that matter.

I also find it interesting that Marvin Lewis was quoted as saying LaVar, and I'm paraphrasing, would sometimes be out of position or something to that effect. Yet he's one of the one's that inquired about Mr. Arrington's services.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I also find it interesting that Marvin Lewis was quoted as saying LaVar, and I'm paraphrasing, would sometimes be out of position or something to that effect. Yet he's one of the one's that inquired about Mr. Arrington's services.

He wasn't ready to give Arrington what he wanted though - ultimately no one valued him at his asking price.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

He wasn't ready to give Arrington what he wanted though - ultimately no one valued him at his asking price.

True. I think lack of playing time on the field is really what hurt him most.
i.e., injuries, system, or whatever.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

True. I think lack of playing time on the field is really what hurt him most.
i.e., injuries, system, or whatever.

And that's what I think is the root of both sides of the argument of pro/con Arrington - lack of playing time.