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[That Guy]

bledsoe is still a top 15 qb right now. he's not peyton or brady, but he's better than nothing, or ken dorsey for sure.

just cause he's a cowboy doesn't make him terrible, and if you honestly think losing your job to tom brady makes you a crappy qb, well, you should stop smoking crack. not everyone can be a top 3 QB in the NFL.

bashing aimlessly for the sake of wasting time or whatnot is fairly pointless. if you think a leader has to win super bowls, then we don't have one either, unless you consider a guy like david patten to be our leader, which would be retarded.

if you think gibbs is our leader, well, parcells has been there too. if you can't play nice and be reasonable, and you have to turn to basless flaming instead, please don't do it here.

[RobH4413]

If Bledsoe gets hurt they're screwed. QB depth:

1. Bledsoe
2. Tony Romo
3. Drew Henson

He's in his 14th season of his career. It's not unlikely that he will miss some games this upcoming season.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

If Bledsoe gets hurt they're screwed. QB depth:

1. Bledsoe
2. Tony Romo
3. Drew Henson

He's in his 14th season of his career. It's not unlikely that he will miss some games this upcoming season.

Even thought Romo and Henson have precticly 0 NFL expirience the coaching staff are really high on them that's way we didn't drafted a qb in this year's draft, they believe that if bledsoe goes down 1 of them can take over for a few games.

but you face the same problem we do if brunnel goes down you can say Campbell but the truth is you don't know nothing from the guys he can come out and be the next B.Rothlisbeger or the next J.P Losman and just stink it up it's a process and he hasn't seen a lot of time.

So if you ask me and becasue both teams see the playoffs and the SB as a possibility neither would like to lose their qb.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

bledsoe is still a top 15 qb right now. he's not peyton or brady, but he's better than nothing, or ken dorsey for sure.

just cause he's a cowboy doesn't make him terrible, and if you honestly think losing your job to tom brady makes you a crappy qb, well, you should stop smoking crack. not everyone can be a top 3 QB in the NFL.

Is Bledsoe really a top 15 QB? Maybe fantasywise. But he certainly is no Brunell and I would take Eli over him. McNabb has playmaking potential, so I would rank him over Bledsoe as well. So I believe, objectively, that Drew is the worst QB in our division, and I think top 15 may be pushing it. The guy has never been impressive when faced with adversity (unlike McNabb or Brunell, and it's too early to tell on Eli). He's a veteran who has the experience to lead an NFL team, but he doesn't strike me as a winner, at least not anymore.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Is Bledsoe really a top 15 QB? Maybe fantasywise. But he certainly is no Brunell and I would take Eli over him. McNabb has playmaking potential, so I would rank him over Bledsoe as well. So I believe, objectively, that Drew is the worst QB in our division, and I think top 15 may be pushing it. The guy has never been impressive when faced with adversity (unlike McNabb or Brunell, and it's too early to tell on Eli). He's a veteran who has the experience to lead an NFL team, but he doesn't strike me as a winner, at least not anymore.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2005/regular

name everyone that's better than him. 8th in yards, 8th in TDs, 17th in rating, BUT his OL was absolute shit. brunell was 14th, 8th, and 13th. bledsoe is error prone and slow, but he's not total crap... not yet.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2005/regular

name everyone that's better than him. 8th in yards, 8th in TDs, 17th in rating, BUT his OL was absolute shit. brunell was 14th, 8th, and 13th.

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

for 2006? you're going to have to axe bulger and mcnabb then, cause they didn't play enough to be considered for any list like this. warner also missed 6 games and with an 11-9 TD-INT ratio couldn't really be put above bledsoe in 2006 either (he also had better WRs and a better OL believe it or not). Farve (even though his team was terrible) is someone i'd also consider very borderline in 2006 because he threw 9 more ints than tds, though he did play on a VERY bad team. Eli's a wash.

that'd make him top 15 (axing bulger/mcnabb/warner, all of which didn't play enough). eli and brunell are essentially somewhat equal production wise. on a bad year like 2006, he's top 15. on a good year (culpepper doesn't suck etc) he'd be top 20. Either way, being average is a lot better than sucking... i mean, he could be tony romo, or alex smith.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

I am not sure how Palmer, Rothlesberger, Eli, Vick, Breese, can even be mentioned. I am not saying these guys wont be better, but to compare year or two stats against a guy that is ranked in the top 10 in most of the all time stats is a bit crazy. Vick is the most over rated, over hyped players in the NFL. Brad Johnson, are you kidding. Serviceable, but not as good. Jake D is not as good as people make him out to be. The guy benefits from throwing hell marrys to Smith. He throws way too many ints and gets help from a pretty damn good defense most of the time. Hasselbeck has had a couple of good years, hasn't played enough yet. Green has been pretty good I'll give you that, McNair, aside from his heart of champion and toughness is one of the great QBs in todays NFL. Drew breese, jury still out. Lets see what he does in New Orleans. Bledsoe has been with 3 teams, 3 offenses to learn and puts up pretty consistant numbers.

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

[number21isabadman]

AIR MCNAIR ha are you joking

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by number21isabadman

AIR MCNAIR ha are you joking

Just because I put a guy on that list of 17 does not mean I think highly of him. Just higher than Bledsoe at this point in their careers.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I am not sure how Palmer, Rothlesberger, Eli, Vick, Breese, can even be mentioned. I am not saying these guys wont be better, but to compare year or two stats against a guy that is ranked in the top 10 in most of the all time stats is a bit crazy. Vick is the most over rated, over hyped players in the NFL. Brad Johnson, are you kidding. Serviceable, but not as good. Jake D is not as good as people make him out to be. The guy benefits from throwing hell marrys to Smith. He throws way too many ints and gets help from a pretty damn good defense most of the time. Hasselbeck has had a couple of good years, hasn't played enough yet. Green has been pretty good I'll give you that, McNair, aside from his heart of champion and toughness is one of the great QBs in todays NFL. Drew breese, jury still out. Lets see what he does in New Orleans. Bledsoe has been with 3 teams, 3 offenses to learn and puts up pretty consistant numbers.

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

I pretty much agree with you the only thing is that I would have to take out K.Warner to injury prone hasn't finish a season since 2001 and Pennington also 2 injury prone and it appears he's almost out the door.

I would replace them with Culppeper even thought he had a bad year and we still need to see how he'll perform with out Moss but in 2004 he posted MVP number and would ahd won it if Peyton hadn't had that freakish season.

The other player I might add is Hasselbeck he has been a top 10 qb in the past 4 seasons and his number keep getting better each year last year he posted 3459yds with a 24-9 td/int his qb ratign since 2001 has gone from 70.9,87.8,88.8,83.1,98.2 those are great numbers.

[backrow]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition?pos=QB

Sort the stats any way you want. QB rating, Yds., TDs, etc. You can prove any formula for success that way.

I made a mistake two years ago by denying any cowgirls on my fantasy team.

I did not make that mistake last year.

I'm not going to say Yahoo! has everything right, but it is the forum I use for my Fantasy league.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

Let's give them more than one or two seasons.

[GTripp0012]

sorry double post.

[number21isabadman]

HA, man the hostility in the air huh. At least its nice to see people are still passionate about there teams, but this quarterback controversy needs to stop. If one area in our division is weak, i would say it would be at the quarterback position, so you cant just go on and say bledsoe sucks and is not a leader, because to be honest with you im not totally sold on brunell as a leader or as my starting qb for that matter, in essence your both talking about the same guy. Both are nearing the ends of the nfl careers, both pocket passers and need time to throw and both are being groomed to be replaced. If you look at brunells numbers last year not all that impressive, it was manly our defense that kept us in games.