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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2005/regular

name everyone that's better than him. 8th in yards, 8th in TDs, 17th in rating, BUT his OL was absolute shit. brunell was 14th, 8th, and 13th.

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

for 2006? you're going to have to axe bulger and mcnabb then, cause they didn't play enough to be considered for any list like this. warner also missed 6 games and with an 11-9 TD-INT ratio couldn't really be put above bledsoe in 2006 either (he also had better WRs and a better OL believe it or not). Farve (even though his team was terrible) is someone i'd also consider very borderline in 2006 because he threw 9 more ints than tds, though he did play on a VERY bad team. Eli's a wash.

that'd make him top 15 (axing bulger/mcnabb/warner, all of which didn't play enough). eli and brunell are essentially somewhat equal production wise. on a bad year like 2006, he's top 15. on a good year (culpepper doesn't suck etc) he'd be top 20. Either way, being average is a lot better than sucking... i mean, he could be tony romo, or alex smith.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A lot of this will get opinional, but here's who I think is better than Drew for the 2006 season:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Matt Hasselbeck
Trent Green
Ben Roethlisberger
Mark Brunell
Drew Brees
Jake Delhomme
Marc Bulger
Kurt Warner
Brett Favre
Eli Manning
Donovan McNabb
Brad Johnson
Steve McNair
Michael Vick

Because this list is 100% mine, I left off some names of QBs who I believe are a bit overrated such as Plummer and Leftwich. But I'm sure a lot of people here could come up with a top 15 list that doesn't include Bledsoe.

Bledsoe has top career QB stats due to longevity, which is a credit to him, but being around as long as he has with his rep, one would expect more than one trip to the SB. The guy hasn't even started a playoff game since 1997 (8 years). So the winning just isn't there.

I am not sure how Palmer, Rothlesberger, Eli, Vick, Breese, can even be mentioned. I am not saying these guys wont be better, but to compare year or two stats against a guy that is ranked in the top 10 in most of the all time stats is a bit crazy. Vick is the most over rated, over hyped players in the NFL. Brad Johnson, are you kidding. Serviceable, but not as good. Jake D is not as good as people make him out to be. The guy benefits from throwing hell marrys to Smith. He throws way too many ints and gets help from a pretty damn good defense most of the time. Hasselbeck has had a couple of good years, hasn't played enough yet. Green has been pretty good I'll give you that, McNair, aside from his heart of champion and toughness is one of the great QBs in todays NFL. Drew breese, jury still out. Lets see what he does in New Orleans. Bledsoe has been with 3 teams, 3 offenses to learn and puts up pretty consistant numbers.

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

[number21isabadman]

AIR MCNAIR ha are you joking

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by number21isabadman

AIR MCNAIR ha are you joking

Just because I put a guy on that list of 17 does not mean I think highly of him. Just higher than Bledsoe at this point in their careers.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I am not sure how Palmer, Rothlesberger, Eli, Vick, Breese, can even be mentioned. I am not saying these guys wont be better, but to compare year or two stats against a guy that is ranked in the top 10 in most of the all time stats is a bit crazy. Vick is the most over rated, over hyped players in the NFL. Brad Johnson, are you kidding. Serviceable, but not as good. Jake D is not as good as people make him out to be. The guy benefits from throwing hell marrys to Smith. He throws way too many ints and gets help from a pretty damn good defense most of the time. Hasselbeck has had a couple of good years, hasn't played enough yet. Green has been pretty good I'll give you that, McNair, aside from his heart of champion and toughness is one of the great QBs in todays NFL. Drew breese, jury still out. Lets see what he does in New Orleans. Bledsoe has been with 3 teams, 3 offenses to learn and puts up pretty consistant numbers.

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

I pretty much agree with you the only thing is that I would have to take out K.Warner to injury prone hasn't finish a season since 2001 and Pennington also 2 injury prone and it appears he's almost out the door.

I would replace them with Culppeper even thought he had a bad year and we still need to see how he'll perform with out Moss but in 2004 he posted MVP number and would ahd won it if Peyton hadn't had that freakish season.

The other player I might add is Hasselbeck he has been a top 10 qb in the past 4 seasons and his number keep getting better each year last year he posted 3459yds with a 24-9 td/int his qb ratign since 2001 has gone from 70.9,87.8,88.8,83.1,98.2 those are great numbers.

[backrow]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition?pos=QB

Sort the stats any way you want. QB rating, Yds., TDs, etc. You can prove any formula for success that way.

I made a mistake two years ago by denying any cowgirls on my fantasy team.

I did not make that mistake last year.

I'm not going to say Yahoo! has everything right, but it is the forum I use for my Fantasy league.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by backrow

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/byposition?pos=QB

Sort the stats any way you want. QB rating, Yds., TDs, etc. You can prove any formula for success that way.

I made a mistake two years ago by denying any cowgirls on my fantasy team.

I did not make that mistake last year.

I'm not going to say Yahoo! has everything right, but it is the forum I use for my Fantasy league.

I used to take it one step further. Before last year, I would not draft a Cowboy nor would I play any player if they were playing the Redskins that weekend. It was a struggle but I actually did well during that period. I once lost a game because I wouldn't play Ahman Green or Donald Driver and my backups were injured. We play in a twelve person league so the waiver wire pickings were slim.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Top Qbs in todays NFL (not in any order)
P. Manning
D. McNabb
D. Bledsoe
C. Palmer
S. McNair
K. Warner
J. Plummer
C.Pennington (when healthy)
T. Brady
B. Farve
Rest are probably about average to NFL standards. ( I may have forgotten someone obvious, forgive me if I did)

Let's give them more than one or two seasons.