Art Monk vs Michael Irvin

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He completed more than 64% of his passes. Even in the west coast offense, that's unbelieveable. No one else is even close to that. Not even Montana who played in the same system. For my money, only Elway, Marino, and Montana have achieved more greatness than Young.

Montana is extreamly close to Youngs 64% pass completion, with 63.7% just for playing with San Fran and a career of 63.2% pass completion. Strange how Young and Montana have very close completion percentages after playing in the same offense. Also with Montana's 63% passer completion comes 4 SB titles in 13 years that he played for San Fran. Youngs 64% passer completion only brings 1 SB title after playing for San Fran 13 years, only starting for 9 of those 13 years.

Originally Posted by dmek25

elway, favre and montana would be the only three on your list i would consider ahead of young. marino and moon put up monstorous numbers playing in a throw first offense with exactly 0 super bowl wins between them. in my eyes greatness almost always = championships

Like that guy had said then where would Brady and Bradshaw be? I am not sold on Brady yet either, by the way. Is he a good QB yes, but lets let him hae a career and not just 6 years, he still has a lot of football ahead of him. As for Bradshaw, he has some pretty bad stats, IMO.

According to pro-football-reference.com http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/BradTe00.htm

Bradshaw ranks in the top 50:
Pass Attempts: 38th
Completions: 45th
Passing Yards: 36th
Passing TD's: 21t

Also for his carrer Bradshaw has only threw 2 more TD's than he had thrown INT's, 212td's vs. 210int's, yet that is somehow HOF worthy...

I am not saying that Young wasnt good, all I am saying is that he was in a good system for him and had the best WR ever to throw to, and yet he still only managed to only win 1 SB!?!? Also, I just dont think that winning 1 SB with the best WR on your team puts you in the top 5 QB all time, IMO.