Roethlisberger injured in motorcycle accident

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Look, I hate helmet laws (I think they interfere with natural selection). But I will put this in the same category as somebody who does stupid things to get themselves suspended from the league.

Why? Playing in the NFL is not a right. It is not something anyone other than very, very few get to do. What BRoth has done by getting on a motorcycle (with or without helmet) is to not take care of a special opportunity.

NFL QBs only have so many shots to the head they can take before they are done. Why lower that number by getting on a bike and not wearing a helmet.

AMEN!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

Look, I hate helmet laws (I think they interfere with natural selection). But I will put this in the same category as somebody who does stupid things to get themselves suspended from the league.

Why? Playing in the NFL is not a right. It is not something anyone other than very, very few get to do. What BRoth has done by getting on a motorcycle (with or without helmet) is to not take care of a special opportunity.

NFL QBs only have so many shots to the head they can take before they are done. Why lower that number by getting on a bike and not wearing a helmet.

That's why Terry Bradshaw suggested to him on more than one occasion that he should wait unti he retire's to ride Bikes. That Asphalt is undefeated.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

That Asphalt is undefeated.

I want to feel bad for him because I like him...but it's his own damn fault and he should have known better.

[gibbsisgod]

most teams put clauses in the contracts of their players for situations just like this, i wonder how big bens contact is worked. and if there is a clause concerning this type of thing will pitt. be willing to pursue it considering he is the star qb.

[BrudLee]

I'm all about personal freedoms. Helmet laws, like seat belt and some smoking laws, infringe upon personal choices. If you want to choose to risk your life and livelihood, by all means do so.

I don't wish injury on anyone - certainly not a guy like Roethlisberger, who by all accounts seems to be a swell guy. Just don't stay awake waiting for the get well soon card if your own foolishness contributed strongly to your injury.

[hooskins]

I was watchin ESPN2 this morning before the cup games, and Big Ben was on Mike and Mike via telephone, and its kinda wierd, bc several hours after this happened.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I'm all about personal freedoms. Helmet laws, like seat belt and some smoking laws, infringe upon personal choices. If you want to choose to risk your life and livelihood, by all means do so.

I don't wish injury on anyone - certainly not a guy like Roethlisberger, who by all accounts seems to be a swell guy. Just don't stay awake waiting for the get well soon card if your own foolishness contributed strongly to your injury.

Sorry, I can't agree that it's all about personal freedom. When morons refuse to wear helmets or buckle up, and then get hurt in accidents, it affects us all in terms of higher insurance rates for everyone. The cost of surgery, medical care, rehab is covered by insurance and then passed along (in a fashion) to all policy holders by the insurance company. You don't honestly think that the premiums you pay would cover all of your medical expenses in a major car accident, do you? Because they won't and the insurance company recoups its costs by allocating their expenses to all of us.

[hooskins]

ouch owned by the laydaayy

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by LadyT

Sorry, I can't agree that it's all about personal freedom. When morons refuse to wear helmets or buckle up, and then get hurt in accidents, it affects us all in terms of higher insurance rates for everyone. The cost of surgery, medical care, rehab is covered by insurance and then passed along (in a fashion) to all policy holders by the insurance company. You don't honestly think that the premiums you pay would cover all of your medical expenses in a major car accident, do you? Because they won't and the insurance company recoups its costs by allocating their expenses to all of us.

Right. I'm all for personal freedoms as long as they don't infringe on other people right's (ex. smoking).

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by LadyT

Sorry, I can't agree that it's all about personal freedom. When morons refuse to wear helmets or buckle up, and then get hurt in accidents, it affects us all in terms of higher insurance rates for everyone. The cost of surgery, medical care, rehab is covered by insurance and then passed along (in a fashion) to all policy holders by the insurance company. You don't honestly think that the premiums you pay would cover all of your medical expenses in a major car accident, do you? Because they won't and the insurance company recoups its costs by allocating their expenses to all of us.

My feeling is that governmentally, there is not a reason to force people to wear helmets. Common sensically (look it up, it's a word), one would be foolish not to.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

My feeling is that governmentally, there is not a reason to force people to wear helmets. Common sensically (look it up, it's a word), one would be foolish not to.

I agree that it's a personal decision - it's stupid not to wear one, but it should be a personal freedom to make that decision. Do we let the government tell us what is good for us and make us do everything their way ? Where would the line be drawn ?

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I agree that it's a personal decision - it's stupid not to wear one, but it should be a personal freedom to make that decision. Do we let the government tell us what is good for us and make us do everything their way ? Where would the line be drawn ?

+1

Oh, and can I remind everyone of the "he got what he deserved" ilk, that at this point it appears he was not at fault for the accident. I agree that he is an idiot for not wearing a helmet, but I thought that before he was in an accident. Don't blame the rider for something that was not his fault. He is the victim in this situation. Blame the asshat in the car that pulled in front of him illegally.

I don't remember hearing this "he got what he deserved" crap when Derrick Thomas (chiefs LB) died from a car crash in which he was not wearing a seat belt?!?!?!

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

My feeling is that governmentally, there is not a reason to force people to wear helmets. Common sensically (look it up, it's a word), one would be foolish not to.

Ok, then anyone who chooses to ride without a helmet should be uninsurable. Just like morons who build homes in hurricane alleys or flood plains.

Personal freedom is fine, but I don't want to have to pay for mistakes made by someone else who was exercising their right to personal freedom. I feel for the guy, but that's not going to make him whole again. I doubt seriously that he will be ready to play in September.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by LadyT

Ok, then anyone who chooses to ride without a helmet should be uninsurable. Just like morons who build homes in hurricane alleys or flood plains.

Personal freedom is fine, but I don't want to have to pay for mistakes made by someone else who was exercising their right to personal freedom. I feel for the guy, but that's not going to make him whole again. I doubt seriously that he will be ready to play in September.

I'd have no problem with insurance failing to cover (or capping damages) for helmetless (or seat belt-less) drivers. That's a function of a free economy, rather than an edict handed down from on high.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by LadyT

Sorry, I can't agree that it's all about personal freedom. When morons refuse to wear helmets or buckle up, and then get hurt in accidents, it affects us all in terms of higher insurance rates for everyone. The cost of surgery, medical care, rehab is covered by insurance and then passed along (in a fashion) to all policy holders by the insurance company. You don't honestly think that the premiums you pay would cover all of your medical expenses in a major car accident, do you? Because they won't and the insurance company recoups its costs by allocating their expenses to all of us.

I agree with this 100%. The financial burden is passed on to the rest of us who choose to use our friggin heads.

Of course, I find myself conflicted. When these morons get in crashes, there's a pretty good chance they're going to die. Dying would be doing us all a favor, so part of me says let them ride helmet free if they wish.