Ramsey update

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Actually, I understand that point perfectly. Gibbs said before that start of last season, that Ramsey was his guy, even though we all found out very quickly, that Ramsey was NOT his guy. I used the term "blackmalled" for affect, but at the very least, Gibbs lied.

This is all a moot point anyway since it happened better than a year ago. I just voiced my opinion because I wholeheartedly disagree with the attitude of most Redskin fans, that Ramsey got a fair shake.

Gibbs didn't lie about anything. Ramsey was never his guy in that Gibbs inherited him, he didn't hand pick him.

He gave Ramsey the chance to win the job, and he stunk it up all preseason and was stinking it up against the Bears before he got knocked out of the game.

Life isn't fair, get over it.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gibbs didn't lie about anything. Ramsey was never his guy in that Gibbs inherited him, he didn't hand pick him.

He gave Ramsey the chance to win the job, and he stunk it up all preseason and was stinking it up against the Bears before he got knocked out of the game.

Life isn't fair, get over it.

That's funny. I have to "get over it", but you intentionally start a negative thread about Ramsey, so that everyone can say "Haha! Ramsey sucks." God forbid someone disagrees.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

That's funny. I have to "get over it", but you intentionally start a negative thread about Ramsey, so that everyone can say "Haha! Ramsey sucks." God forbid someone disagrees.

I wasn't trying to start a negative thread. Ramsey is still a popular guy, so I think it was a perfectly relevant topic to address. It's not my problem that some still have man crushes on the guy and can't accept that he's just not that good.

If the article said he was having a great camp I would have posted it just the same.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I wasn't trying to start a negative thread. Ramsey is still a popular guy, so I think it was a perfectly relevant topic to address. It's not my problem that some still have man crushes on the guy and can't accept that he's just not that good.

Kind of like some peoples man crush on Joe Gibbs . My point was only that Ramsey didn't get a fair shake as compared to his peers. I agree that he's basically ruined now. While I do hope he can salvage his career somewhere, he's probably going to be stuck in a backup role for the rest of it.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Kind of like some peoples man crush on Joe Gibbs .

Yeah, well my man has 3 Lombardi trophies. All yours has is a bronze medal from the Pan American Games for his javelin abilities.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Kind of like some peoples man crush on Joe Gibbs . My point was only that Ramsey didn't get a fair shake as compared to his peers. I agree that he's basically ruined now. While I do how he can salvage his career somewhere, he's probably going to be stuck in a backup role for the rest of it.

Difference is Gibbs is worthy of a man crush Three Super Bowl rings is a little different than a handful of abysmal seasons as a QB.

The real point you need to grasp is that, yes, Ramsey maybe didn't get as much a chance as Carr or Harrington - maybe that's cause none of the three deserved that much of a chance. Your argument that we should give Ramsey as much a shot as the other two will have this team turning out like the Texans and Lions, which is NOT where we want to be.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Difference is Gibbs is worthy of a man crush Three Super Bowl rings is a little different than a handful of abysmal seasons as a QB.

The real point you need to grasp is that, yes, Ramsey maybe didn't get as much a chance as Carr or Harrington - maybe that's cause none of the three deserved that much of a chance. Your argument that we should give Ramsey as much a shot as the other two will have this team turning out like the Texans and Lions, which is NOT where we want to be.

I think we gave Ramsey TOO MANY chances. He plays like a rookie QB every year. His mistakes are understandable for a rookie or even second-year player, but when you're still making rookie mistakes when you've played for 3 years, something tells me you're not cut out to be a starter in the NFL.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

That's funny. I have to "get over it", but you intentionally start a negative thread about Ramsey, so that everyone can say "Haha! Ramsey sucks." God forbid someone disagrees.

Boo hoo. You weren't right 9 months ago, and you aren't right now. Get over it.

[Oakland Red]

I agree with Matty absolutely. Ramsey was given the starting job. He performed incompetently. He was replaced by a far better quarterback.

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gibbs didn't lie about anything. Ramsey was never his guy in that Gibbs inherited him, he didn't hand pick him.

He gave Ramsey the chance to win the job, and he stunk it up all preseason and was stinking it up against the Bears before he got knocked out of the game.

Life isn't fair, get over it.