Sportscenter final 4 agree or not?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not buying the Cards either. Very suspect OL + a fragile, fumbling Kurt Warner does not = playoffs.

I am buying the Cards, finally. Edgerrin James is exactly what they needed. The Cards OL was very suspect last year, however no worse than the Colts as far as talent goes. The Colts were #1 in the league in terms of sack given up, and that line isn't any good. Peyton deserves most of the credit, but a lot goes to Edge for his excellent blitz pickup skills, and the threat of running he brought that put more pressure on coodinators to back off the blitz with him in the backfield. With him in Arizona, sit tight and watch the Cards sack totals go way down, and the Colts go up to where they should be with the weak line they have.

The Cards had the no. 1 pass O last year and the no. 32 rushing attack. Again, Edge is exactly what they needed.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I am buying the Cards, finally. Edgerrin James is exactly what they needed. The Cards OL was very suspect last year, however no worse than the Colts as far as talent goes. The Colts were #1 in the league in terms of sack given up, and that line isn't any good. Peyton deserves most of the credit, but a lot goes to Edge for his excellent blitz pickup skills, and the threat of running he brought that put more pressure on coodinators to back off the blitz with him in the backfield. With him in Arizona, sit tight and watch the Cards sack totals go way down, and the Colts go up to where they should be with the weak line they have.

The Cards had the no. 1 pass O last year and the no. 32 rushing attack. Again, Edge is exactly what they needed.

I think what they really need is a solid QB who doesn't fumble when he's breathed on.

Warner isn't the answer.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think what they really need is a solid QB who doesn't fumble when he's breathed on.

Warner isn't the answer.

Warner's been successful wherever he's been. 2 MVPs in St. Louis, 5-3 as the QB of the G-men, no. 1 passing O in Arizona. There are about 15-20 teams that wish they had a QB as good as Warner still is.

And thats taking the fumbling problem into consideration.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Warner's been successful wherever he's been. 2 MVPs in St. Louis, 5-3 as the QB of the G-men, no. 1 passing O in Arizona. There are about 15-20 teams that wish they had a QB as good as Warner still is.

And thats taking the fumbling problem into consideration.

Of course they had the #1 passing offense, they had no running game to speak of and they were constantly playing from behind.

If he could stay healthy you might have an argument. Trouble is he can't. He hasn't played a full season since 2001. During that time he's been a shadow of his former MVP self with just a 78.15 passer rating, 21 TDs, 25 INTs, and 14 lost fumbles.

There are plenty of teams in the league in need of quality starters, Warner is not a quality starter anymore over the long haul of a season. He might be good for about 10 starts, but that's not enough to get a team into serious contention.

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Of course they had the #1 passing offense, they had no running game to speak of and they were constantly playing from behind.

If he could stay healthy you might have an argument. Trouble is he can't. He hasn't played a full season since 2001. During that time he's been a shadow of his former MVP self with just a 78.15 passer rating, 21 TDs, 25 INTs, and 14 lost fumbles.

There are plenty of teams in the league in need of quality starters, Warner is not a quality starter anymore over the long haul of a season. He might be good for about 10 starts, but that's not enough to get a team into serious contention.

WOW! thats 39 turnovers. how many games did he play over that span? i know he has been injured and missed some time so it probably comes to more than 1 turnover per game.