If you don't like Roy Williams you'll love this article

[bigSkinsfan61]

roy willams is on the official santana moss x-mas card list or he shud be

[skindogger47]

This article sucks. Ben Roethlisburger is not the most overrated player on the Steelers, Willie Green is. Or Joey Porter. Every other player he named as overrated seems to be a safety that isn't great in coverage, even strong safeties. And if Trent Green is underrated, I guess he deserves an MVP because hes been to the pro bowl.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skindogger47

This article sucks. Ben Roethlisburger is not the most overrated player on the Steelers, Willie Green is. Or Joey Porter. Every other player he named as overrated seems to be a safety that isn't great in coverage, even strong safeties. And if Trent Green is underrated, I guess he deserves an MVP because hes been to the pro bowl.

Who is Willie Green? I don't think i've ever heard of him.

[skindogger47]

I also think that while he was a beast in college, Roy Williams owes Patrick Ramsey some credit for where he is today. He made P-ram look like a fool every time they played.

[number21isabadman]

i think he meant willie parker, but I hardly believe that ben rothlisburger is overrated, the last time we had a young rookie qb that played as well as rothlisburger i believe his name was tom brady and look at him now.

[hooskins]

I think Big Ben is a bit overrated, he fell into a great system in which he did not have to throw many completions, and therefore less interceptions. But he did come up when he needed to. We will see if Ben is for real real next season as his pass attempts will increase significantly.

[That Guy]

why change to a pass happy offense if what you've got is still working? tommy maddox was total crap in the same system.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

why change to a pass happy offense if what you've got is still working? tommy maddox was total crap in the same system.

They just dont have the personel to be run-first anymore. They will still run effectively, but only if Big Ben establishes the passing game first.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

They just dont have the personel to be run-first anymore. They will still run effectively, but only if Big Ben establishes the passing game first.

I disagree, but we'll see in 2006. Losing bettis but still having a good OL/FB/TE in place to block should be enough to continue running.

[5RINGS]

You know,

No way Roy makes it as a LB in the 3/4. Too Small. Roy has a good first step and good instincts and he is a Big time Hitter. He isn't an instinctive Coverage Strong Safety.

BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.

You can make that kind of arguement about almost anyone in any team sport, because they are just that, team sports.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.

I would think that the loss of Hope is very different than the loss of Darren Woodson. Chris Hope went on the open market, and sat there for a month without even recieving a phone call. Ryan Clark was signed before then, so I have to assume that front offices in general feel that Clark is better.

Roy's game isn't in coverage, but in a divison like the East is this year, he becomes a liability. You may not be able to run on Dallas, but you can throw on them.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I would think that the loss of Hope is very different than the loss of Darren Woodson. Chris Hope went on the open market, and sat there for a month without even recieving a phone call. Ryan Clark was signed before then, so I have to assume that front offices in general feel that Clark is better.

I think that's a stretch. clark was way cheaper but still had starting experience. Chris hope was holding out for a much bigger offer than clark got, and he got a lot more money, so i'd argue that's a pretty clear indication of who FO's think i better. the steelers were just going cheap, again.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

You know,

No way Roy makes it as a LB in the 3/4. Too Small. Roy has a good first step and good instincts and he is a Big time Hitter. He isn't an instinctive Coverage Strong Safety.

BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.

I don't know your opinion on the whole Taylor vs. Williams argument, but with that reasoning, it would suggest that Taylor is far superior to Williams in that regard. Taylor has had nothing but below-average overachieving safeties surrounding him.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I don't know your opinion on the whole Taylor vs. Williams argument, but with that reasoning, it would suggest that Taylor is far superior to Williams in that regard. Taylor has had nothing but below-average overachieving safeties surrounding him.

I didn't want to go there because I can't say a bad word about Taylor on the field.

Yes he is probably a better FS than Roy is a SS.

The U puts out quality on the field players no doubt.

Mind you if Roy goes into Free agancy and doesn't resign, pairing him with Taylor would be murder in the East.

Dallas might not sign him. He is looking for Ed Reed Money at least is what I have read.



The Skins have been known to give up a few extra dollars for player it felt was needed, and he is in a totally different class than archeuleta.

Could Happen.....