Patten thrust back into veteran leader’s role

[Daseal]

I personally don't understand all the Taylor hate and all the Patten love. But that's me~

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I personally don't understand all the Taylor hate and all the Patten love. But that's me~

It's a Gibbs thing, Gibbs said some nice things about his attitude, if Gibbs said Michael Jackson was going to start for us at left tackle, we would have a thread on whether or not Bugel can turn him into an all pro his first year. The funny thing is Gibbs hasen't said anything bad about Jacobs, and he signed on a #2 and a #3 WR which was supposed to be Pattens spot.


Essentially because TJ hasen't produced yet means in many eye's he never will, as if late bloomers have never existed in the NFL, it's funny but everyone was saying the same things about Brees before the Rivers holdout, funny how a guy who couldn't play and was going to be cut, managed to somehow become an all pro.

Many people look at production and nothing else, like for instance how that production came about, did the team that player played on hold him back? Dana Stubblefield was a prime example of false production, after we signed him we quickly found out that it was Bryant Young occupying all the blockers in san fran which allowed his production, no BY in DC, no production for Stubby. Those sort of mis evaluations happen all the time.

There is no way I would toss any WR in our offense the last 3 years overboard, not until they had a chance in a real quality offense which will happen this year, Thrash as far as WR skills are concerned will be the odd man out, the question will be, is Thrashs special team importance overide the importance of the 5th WR? And we all know how much Gibbs loves Thrash that will be a real tough call when the time comes. But it may not be Jacobs in the 5 hole it may be Patten, in which he would probably be moved allowing for Thrash to stick and Jacobs to fill the role of a 4th WR, which he should be more than capable of doing along with his above average ability on specials.

I would like to know what happens in pre-season if somehow Patten slightly outplays either LLoyd or Randel'el? Does he start as told by Gibbs in which case we will have some very unhappy newcomers, or is he slighted by Gibbs and dropped to #4 or 5? Because you can rest assured Patten believes he is going to beat these guys out, that is why he asked Gibbs where he stands as far as his committment at the WR position and does the best player play, something tells me Patten isn't going to be happy with the results regardless. Pattens displeasure might be his ticket out. I just don't see him at his age being happy as a 4th WR, he could have stayed in NE if he was happy with that.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by offiss

It's a Gibbs thing, Gibbs said some nice things about his attitude, if Gibbs said Michael Jackson was going to start for us at left tackle, we would have a thread on whether or not Bugel can turn him into an all pro his first year.

He only plays little league.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

He only plays little league.

LOL, I set them up, and you knock'em down. histerical TMC!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by offiss

I would like to know what happens in pre-season if somehow Patten slightly outplays either LLoyd or Randel'el? Does he start as told by Gibbs in which case we will have some very unhappy newcomers, or is he slighted by Gibbs and dropped to #4 or 5? Because you can rest assured Patten believes he is going to beat these guys out, that is why he asked Gibbs where he stands as far as his committment at the WR position and does the best player play, something tells me Patten isn't going to be happy with the results regardless. Pattens displeasure might be his ticket out. I just don't see him at his age being happy as a 4th WR, he could have stayed in NE if he was happy with that.

This is a very interesting question. I'd have to believe that he would start Patten. But then again, it would be an easy decision if he vastly outplayed Lloyd and Randle El. If it's close, I have to believe the young guys with the cash will be playing. In general, money talks in the NFL.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This is a very interesting question. I'd have to believe that he would start Patten. But then again, it would be an easy decision if he vastly outplayed Lloyd and Randle El. If it's close, I have to believe the young guys with the cash will be playing. In general, money talks in the NFL.

I agree, and that is where the problem arises, a player will believe he has outplayed another player but it could be very slight maybe 1 catch or a run after a catch, and so yes he can justify stat wise he outplayed another player does that mean he's neccassarily better? No, so what happens? That player is not happy.

This isn't much different than the Ramsey Brunell compitition, did anyone really believe we gave up 43 mil and a second round pick for Brunell so he can hold a clip board and watch Ramsey play? Same thing will take place here we didn't go out and sign these guys to big money and give up picks so they can backup Patten. Gibbs will make sure these guy's are not outplayed by Patten.

This is I guess a fun question who believes Patten under any circumstances other than injury, will start ahead of either LLoyd or Randel'el?