Attack this poll!!! (7/24/06)

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Prior to the start of last season, some writer-can't remember who-said that he thought Andy Reid was overrated as a coach. That he had spent the past few years owning the NFC East by feeding off the likes of Spurrier, Campo, Fassel, and a Gibbs who had been out of the league for 12 years.

But with Parcells firmly entrenched in Dallas, Gibbs with a year under his belt, and even Tom Coughlin Reid would be exposed as not up to their level. Not yet at least.

I thought that was interesting.

I think that was me. Friggin' Genius.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I think that was me. Friggin' Genius.

http://www.thewarpath.net/183435-post28.html

"The aura of Andy Reid took a big hit last year, when the coach didn't have the likes of Dave Campo, Jim Fassell, and an overmatched Steve Spurrier to push around."

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

http://www.thewarpath.net/183435-post28.html

"The aura of Andy Reid took a big hit last year, when the coach didn't have the likes of Dave Campo, Jim Fassell, and an overmatched Steve Spurrier to push around."

too bad he said that two months ago when we already knew that

[RobH4413]

Who is voting in this thing. Apparently we have the best offense and defense, but not the best coach. I would argue that our coach (who is proven) would be the unanamous(sp?) decision. But alas, I'm biased.

[BDBohnzie]

Who is the best coach in the NFC East?

45.1% Bill Parcells, Cowboys
30.8% Joe Gibbs, Redskins

going in the right direction, but nowhere near where it should be.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Who is the best coach in the NFC East?

45.1% Bill Parcells, Cowboys
30.8% Joe Gibbs, Redskins

going in the right direction, but nowhere near where it should be.

I think that Gibbs doesn't get the accolade that Parcells does is because of the amount of Parcells assistants - or West Point Guys - that havegone on to become Head coaches. Belichek, Weiss, Crennel, Groh, Tom Coglahn (sp) , Co-ordinator Carthon.

Parcells is the equivalent of Walsh in terms of acolytes.

[MTK]

I really believe that Parcells is a media darling mainly because of his press conferences. He's always good for an interesting quote and the media eats it up.

Gibbs is much more straight laced and doesn't offer up much of anything in his pressers.

If you compare their coaching resumes, I don't see how anyone can objectively say that Parcells is the better coach. I think it's very even.

They are both cream of the crop, but I would give the slight edge to Gibbs.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really believe that Parcells is a media darling mainly because of his press conferences. He's always good for an interesting quote and the media eats it up.

Gibbs is much more straight laced and doesn't offer up much of anything in his pressers.

If you compare their coaching resumes, I don't see how anyone can objectively say that Parcells is the better coach. I think it's very even.

They are both cream of the crop, but I would give the slight edge to Gibbs.

Can anyone tell me if Gibbs assistants have had success as Head coaches?

I think that Jimmy Johnsons rep has been tarnished a little bit because of the lack of success of his assistants - I don't have to tell you guys about Norv Turner - Dave Wanstadt (sp) Butch Davis....

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Can anyone tell me if Gibbs assistants have had success as Head coaches?

I think that Jimmy Johnsons rep has been tarnished a little bit because of the lack of success of his assistants - I don't have to tell you guys about Norv Turner - Dave Wanstadt (sp) Butch Davis....

Most of them (Bugel, Breaux, Burns and Simmons) are still with him. A true mark of a great football coach. Bugel did try his hand at coaching the Cardnals and Raiders. He did...poorly.

[5RINGS]

Here is a better list of the coaches under the Parcells Tree.



1. Parcells (Dallas)
2. Belichick (New England)
3. Tom Coughlin (New York Giants)
4. Saban (Miami)
5. Romeo Crennel (Cleveland)
6. Eric Mangini (New York Jets)
7. Sean Payton (New Orleans)
8. Linehan (St. Louis)



And before I get the usual 'How many Super Bowls has Parcells won without Belichek' let me say this; the same amount that Belichek has won without Crennel or Weiss.

[scowan]

There are more Cowboys fans than Redskins fans. That is all this Poll represents.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by scowan

There are more Cowboys fans than Redskins fans. That is all this Poll represents.

True.

Really these things need to be decided on the field.

[MTK]

A coaching tree isn't the end all determination of the legacy of a great coach.

[5RINGS]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A coaching tree isn't the end all determination of the legacy of a great coach.

I didn't say that it was.

I said that it might explain the the perception that Parcells is better than Gibbs.

I think they are both GOAT worthy and it would be hard to pick between them.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by 5RINGS

I didn't say that it was.

I said that it might explain the the perception that Parcells is better than Gibbs.

I think they are both GOAT worthy and it would be hard to pick between them.

What makes a person a great head coach? Their overall record? The achievements of his assistants after they left for greener pastures? I think it's the ability to step into an organization in turmoil and get it going in the right direction. Both Parcell's and Gibbs have proven ability to do this.